How would you rate Cataclysm?

[Saph]

How good do you think Cataclysm is in comparison to earlier expansions?

Is it your favorite? Your worst? Let us know!

And it'd help if you could state WHY you feel the way you feel about it, good or bad! Liked, not required =P

EDIT: I chose I think its good because I think that it is exactly that, good, not great. All of the new stuff with worgen and goblins and the new zones and such are all awesome, but it just looks like yet another wrath of the lich king with emphasis on the opposites from WotLK.

I feel the expansion is on par with WotLK in its ability to capture the eye and keep it there, but my favorite is by far Burning Crusade. It reminds me kind of like the first movie of what would become a movie with 2 sequels! Burning Crusade was the first movie, and the WotLK and Cataclysm are sequels to me. Burning Crusade blows it all away cause it was fresh, new, and exciting content! Blizzards problem is that ever since those days, they have stuck to that strategy, and after 2 expansions later, people are feeling like they're just stacking blocks ontop of it, trying to match it, but not out do it.

So I would call Cataclysm a potential savior from the utter failure of WOTLK and its lack of difficulty. I like how heroics and such in Cataclysm are almost 3 times as difficult to master as in WotLK! This gives the game depth, and challenge, and makes most come back. It also helps filtering out those people who simply cant or wont commit enough to put the effort into it enough to succeed in it.

This of course also has a side effect. With more difficulty comes more hopelesness, and people who give up will quit the game, making Blizzard lose money!

Its a difficult aspect the balance, with just the right amount of hard mode, while leaving space for the lesser gamers to have fun with their own level of difficulty as well!

So, for the somewhat good execution, and their obvious attempts at righting their wrongs in WotLK, I feel that Cataclysm deserves a solid Like, but they'll have to do better than that to get a great out of me again like they did with BC!

[paecmaker]

Well, I dont play wow and cant say much of what I think its like to play it. But i can say that I think it was very brave to destroy the world and rebuild it. From what ive heard it seems though as they could have done more to make it more like a hole new experience.

[Exentenzed]

they could have done more to make it more like a hole new experience.

This.

I felt that it lacked a lot. However the starting quests for both goblin and worgen where fun.

[ROFLBRYCE]

Vanilla > Cataclysm > Lich King > TBC for gameplay.

I thought they really brought a new experience to the table. TBC was boring as hell, and Lich King was a big improvement over that. Re-levelling to 60 was a lot of fun, and I noticed so many new and fun changes that were brought in the Cataclysm. 80-85 was my fastest, and most fun leveling patch as well. I love everything end-game about Cataclysm (except PvP, never really liked it), and it's the only expansion I've been able to sit on and play through for hours and hours at a time.

[Saph]

Did you enjoy Vashj'ir, bro?

I was so damned hyped when I got there, it was like OMFG UNDERWATER!!! I think I leveled from 80-82.5 just in that area XD.

The rest never really did much for me, just new leveling zones. Mt. Hyjal was interesting, but alittle disappointing considering that its been a zone that has been closed since day 1 and the zone that has had the most attempts of breaking and entering EVER. You know that more people have received perma bans for entering Hyjal before it was finished than any other!?

And it ends up becomming a cataclysm lvl 80-82 leveling zone. I was quite disappointed, they could've done AWESOME things with the place to make people feel it was worth the wait!

I just feel that WoW is getting more and more farming dependant. In vanilla you simply couldnt farm, you had to be BADASS to ever even dream of getting an epic gear piece, and nowadays, purple gear is given out like chili at a chili con carnival! Just showup a few times and its all yours! I don't like that...I miss vanilla for that, when the pros could be identified just from the outfit they were wearing! Now it all looks the same, I cant distinguish a badass end game raider with the best Tier gear available, from a newbie who just hit level 85 and got his starting gear a week ago. It all looks the same except for color differences -.- It sucks!

So eh, I'd say Cata is good, but it couldve deffinately been better.

[ROFLBRYCE]

1. Did you enjoy Vashj'ir, bro?

2. The rest never really did much for me, just new leveling zones. Mt. Hyjal was interesting, but alittle disappointing considering that its been a zone that has been closed since day 1 and the zone that has had the most attempts of breaking and entering EVER. You know that more people have received perma bans for entering Hyjal before it was finished than any other!?

And it ends up becomming a cataclysm lvl 80-82 leveling zone. I was quite disappointed, they could've done AWESOME things with the place to make people feel it was worth the wait!

3. I just feel that WoW is getting more and more farming dependant. In vanilla you simply couldnt farm, you had to be BADASS to ever even dream of getting an epic gear piece, and nowadays, purple gear is given out like chili at a chili con carnival! Just showup a few times and its all yours! I don't like that...I miss vanilla for that, when the pros could be identified just from the outfit they were wearing! Now it all looks the same, I cant distinguish a badass end game raider with the best Tier gear available, from a newbie who just hit level 85 and got his starting gear a week ago. It all looks the same except for color differences -.- It sucks!

1. Never did Vash Plowed through Hyjal, Therezane, Twilight and one other I can't remember lol. No rep rewards for a 2H Frost DK, in Vash man!

2. Hyjal wasn't a disappointment for me. I started the WC series, unfortunately, at WC3. Playing Hyjal in WoW wrapped up a few loose threads I had wondered about, and it was by far the funnest zone to level through for me.

3. I don't feel it's a farm fest. It is, but it's not. The gear from Heroics and Raids is better than most craftable gear, so I ignore it and run the dungeons for fun. And it's easy to tell who's good and bad when your playing with them, looking at DPS charts and listening to some stupid strategies.

Keep running into this hunter in heroics with barely 333 gear (minimum heroic requirement, been there since 2 months ago...I've got better gear in 2 weeks of heroics, I quit for a month lol) who INSISTS upon not using his pet. Cause it's "not enough damage"....lot of stupider people on WoW, but it's a fun experience if you find people who know their stuff.


RAAAANNNNTTTTTTT done.

[Saph]

About the hunter: PLEEEENTY of Huntards out there bro!!!

About Mt. Hyjal: Yeeeaaah I mean its an okay zone, by no means the worst, I still HATE Uldum -.- Absolutely dreadful zone! Did maybe 20 quests there at most, else I used it to farm Pyrite etc. and to find the instances I needed

If you wanna take a look at my chars before I grinded to an abrubt halt, here's a list:

Sapphina: lvl 85 orc shaman, Blackwater Raiders
Sapphirea: lvl 85 undead mage, Blackwater Raiders

I think those are my 85s, never got further then that Cant wait to go back though!

My mage is pretty old, dates back a few years, while my shaman is even older, but she got to 85 later on My mage is like mid WotLK, and shaman used to be a draenei from the beginning of BC!

Other servers I've been on: Darrowmere, Hyjal(both sides)

Either way back to topic now!


Twilight is an awesome but fairly difficult zone, it still holds some bugs in need of fixing, but all around a good zone to be if you're ~1 level from 85, I dont think its a good idea to be there before that though, not sure if you even can?

This reminds me I need to continue my WoW guide :S completely forgot about it!!!

[ROFLBRYCE]

About the hunter: PLEEEENTY of Huntards out there bro!!!

About Mt. Hyjal: Yeeeaaah I mean its an okay zone, by no means the worst, I still HATE Uldum -.- Absolutely dreadful zone! Did maybe 20 quests there at most, else I used it to farm Pyrite etc. and to find the instances I needed

Twilight is an awesome but fairly difficult zone, it still holds some bugs in need of fixing, but all around a good zone to be if you're ~1 level from 85, I don't think its a good idea to be there before that though, not sure if you even can?

Too many hunters out there...but just saying this one was stupider than normal haha. For any class. It's like a lock not using a minion, or a warrior spamming "Shoot" with a crossbow for DPS.

Uldum was my 2nd favorite Cata zone. Not a fan of grinding Therazane rep, but whatever it needs to be done...need my enhancement pieces.

I went to Twilight halfway through 84 and just got the last half of my level there, wasn't a bad zone really. Was a little boring, more "Kill x amount of y" quests, and "Go to point A, talk to them" quests than normal, but easy peesy exp.

Check out Puffymuffins, gnome death knight on Suramar. Ignore my agi ring lol...I know I messed up... But yeah, starting to do heroics and that's what I'm looking like. Just need a bit more work till I'm raiding casually.

[paecmaker]

OMG hardcore wow talk, I think my brain will rupture of all the information.

[ROFLBRYCE]

OMG hardcore wow talk, I think my brain will rupture of all the information.

Just be sure to get someone to clean up the mess