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LiNuX
03-18-2009, 12:08 AM
WASHINGTON – Talking tougher by the hour, livid Democrats confronted beleaguered insurance giant AIG with an ultimatum Tuesday: Give back $165 million in post-bailout bonuses or watch Congress tax it away with emergency legislation. Republicans declared the Democrats were hardly blameless, accusing them of standing by while the bonus deal was cemented and suggesting that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner could and should have done more. While the White House expressed confidence in Geithner, it was clearly placing the responsibility for how the matter was handled on his shoulders.

Geithner sent a letter late Tuesday to congressional leaders informing them that he was working with the Justice Department to determine whether any of the AIG payments could be recovered. He cited a provision in the recent economic stimulus law that gave him authority to review compensation to the highest-paid employees of companies that already have received federal assistance.

Fresh details, meanwhile, pushed outrage over AIG ever higher: New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo reported that 73 company employees received bonus checks of $1 million or more last Friday. This at a company that was failing so spectacularly that the government felt the need to prop it up with a $170 billion bailout.

The financial bailout program remains politically unpopular and has been a drag on Barack Obama's new presidency, even though the plan began under his predecessor, George W. Bush. The White House is well aware of the nation's bailout fatigue — anger that hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars have gone to prop up financial institutions that made poor decisions, while many others who have done no wrong pay the price.

White House officials, for the first time, on Tuesday night said Geithner told the White House about the bonus payments last Thursday, and senior aides informed the president later that day. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal details of the timeline involving AIG.

The administration wouldn't be pleased to hear what Maria Panza-Villa, of Hillsboro, Ore., had to say. "Wasn't Obama supposed to fix this?" asked the mother of two who said she has lost three jobs since November as one employer after another went under.

AIG chief executive Edward Liddy can expect a verbal pummeling Wednesday when he testifies before a House subcommittee.

On Capitol Hill late Tuesday, House Democrats directed three powerful committees to come up with legislation this week to authorize Attorney General Eric Holder to recover massive bonus payments made by companies like the ones paid last week by American International Group Inc.

Senate Democrats, meanwhile, suggested that if the AIG executives had any integrity, they would return the $165 million in bonus money. One leading Republican, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, even suggested they might honorably kill themselves, then said he didn't really mean it.

Whatever the process, lawmakers of all stripes said, the money — generally "retention payments" to keep prized employees — belongs back in the government's hands.

"Recipients of these bonuses will not be able to keep all of their money," declared Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in an unusually strong threat delivered on the Senate floor.

"If you don't return it on your own, we will do it for you," echoed Chuck Schumer of New York.

read whole story here: Livid Democrats demand AIG return bailout bonuses (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090318/ap_on_bi_ge/aig_outrage)

Seriously AIG begs for money for the COMPANY and then they give the money out to the managers and heads of the company for personal use, really pathetic.

$165 million in bonuses? After getting a $170 billion of tax payer money? Somebody needs to shoot those fools.

jakncoke
03-18-2009, 12:23 AM
ridiculous, kick these guys off the planet.

KittyCat72
03-18-2009, 03:24 PM
Somebody needs to shoot those fools.

I'm on it.

I can stand stuff like this... err, so stupid an annoying. Greed will be our downfall (or rather, is already our downfall).

Samus-Fan
03-18-2009, 03:26 PM
Mm, Obama said he knew about the bonus's before he gave them the bailout.
It is a great world, mm.

Read this in the newspaper. Parents had to explain half of it, because I wasn't sure I was reading it right.

Jaykub
03-18-2009, 06:20 PM
I will cut my rant and just say. (Take The Money Back)
but on a good note Obama picked UNC to win the National Championship :yes:

LiNuX
03-18-2009, 06:34 PM
Mm, Obama said he knew about the bonus's before he gave them the bailout.
It is a great world, mm.

Read this in the newspaper. Parents had to explain half of it, because I wasn't sure I was reading it right.

lol you and your hate for obama.

congress is the one that deals with the bailout bills, not the president, he just has to sign them but the proposals weren't from him. Most of the money given to AIG came when George Bush was in office and they threw parties worth millions and gave out even more bonuses there so you pointing your finger to obama is just pure hate and mostly "unnecessary" when it comes to bailing out AIG.

great world indeed...

Exodyus
03-18-2009, 06:56 PM
I've been listening and watching this from the get-go and while all of your frustrations are valid, they're only scratching the surface of the reason why - you just act angry because you know they got money and now they're bosses are getting more - but you don't know why because the same argument keeps stemming up.

1. ) The reason AIG -HAD- to give these men and women their bonuses is because it was under contract and if they didn't, the money in the lawsuits lost would have been substantially greater. The highest paying people were given upwards of 4 million bucks, and down the line. It was all set in contract before this sh;tstorm ever went down hill.

2. ) The owner and CEO of AIG has already (meaning you're all behind the times with this post) announced today that he told every one of the receiving individuals for the contractual bonus that they -should- give back the money because of obvious reasons. Those who made over 100k, were asked to give back 50% or more of what they made.

3. ) Over half of the people given bonuses have already given back 100% of their bonuses.

4. ) A lot of people don't understand the reasoning for this companies bail out. I see a lot of these kids say, Let it fall! Why help it out, if it cant help itself?!
And this is easy - it's called Global Economic Breakdown... and AIG would be the one to catalyst it.
They have so many of these - I think they're called Reverse Interest Swatches, that were basically bets against the housing market and AIG lost these bets, obviously (if you know anything about realty or the housing market today) they owe a lot of people money now.

Problem is - a LOT of big companies, banks, and even states have invested in AIG because of this "easy way out" money. We're talking Billions. So...

If AIG crashes, it'll be like Boeing 747 jet with a million mile tail of Cat O' Nines hanging off the back and it'll shred the economy of a bunch of nations on its way down, sending dozens of companies to the face of bankruptcy.



So. Money is given back.
Chillax.

You morons should watch what you say also, because they're on the look out for people who would kill these AIG members. The Feds have already taken a bunch of people into custody and jail for death threats, saying "all of these investors should be hung by piano wire" and weird sh;t like that...
Yea, this is the internet - but that doesn't mean you wont get a knock some day for crying wolf.