View Full Version : Mexico decriminalizes all drugs
jakncoke
08-20-2009, 10:16 PM
Mexico enacted a controversial law on Thursday that decriminalizes possession of small amounts of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other drugs while encouraging free government treatment for drug dependency.
The law defines "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamines. People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal prosecution when the law goes into effect on Friday.
Anyone caught with drug amounts under the personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory — although the law does not specify penalties for noncompliance.
In 2006, the U.S. government publicly criticized a similar bill. Then-President Vicente Fox sent that law — which did not have a mandatory treatment provision — back to Congress for reconsideration.
The maximum amount considered to be for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams of marijuana — the equivalent of two or three joints — or a half-gram of cocaine. The limit for methamphetamine is 40 milligrams, and 0.015 milligrams of LSD.
The law was approved by Congress before it recessed in late April, and President Felipe Calderon — who is leading a major offensives against drug cartels — waited most of the summer before enacting it.
Calderon's original proposal would have required first-time detainees to complete treatment or face jail time. But the lower house of Congress, where Calderon's party was short of a majority, weakened the bill.
Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate between addicts or casual consumers and the violent drug traffickers whose turf battles have contributed to the deaths of over 11,000 people during Calderon's term. And in the face of growing domestic drug use, Mexico has increased its focus on prevention and drug treatment.
Sen. Pablo Gomez of the leftist Democratic Revolution Party praised the legislation: "This law achieves the decriminalization of drugs, and in exchange, offers government recovery treatment for addicts."
Previously, all drug possession was punishable by stiff jail sentences, with some leeway for those considered addicts and caught with smaller amounts. In practice, relatively few people were prosecuted and sentenced to jail for small-time possession.
:laugh: wat?
LemonRising
08-20-2009, 10:25 PM
Thats pretty cool.
And one way to get all the mexicans out of america
LAWLS
that was a joke.
Jaykub
08-20-2009, 10:39 PM
Holy crap.
That could be very good or very bad. It could cause more drugs coming over the border or it will stop it.
Can't wait to see :/
LuckyStrike
08-20-2009, 10:46 PM
A few countries have laws like this for weed and it seems to work for them. I don't know how things will turn out for the harder drugs like cocaine and heroin though, people might end up being being more encouraged to go out and try them which could lead to more people getting addicted.
no2rious killa
08-21-2009, 02:01 AM
I don't paticualary agree with everything being decriminalized. But I think this is a step in the right direction for Mexico. But I don't see much of an impact coming from it. People still have to depend on the cartels to supply the drugs. So legalization and regulation is really the only way this aproach works. Hopefully it'll be good and America will see that prohabition dosnt work and is what creates the violence and crime.
jakncoke
08-21-2009, 11:47 AM
I don't think it'll have any help either for drug problem, because the problem is there. aka the USA. We still snort the hell of there coke and smoke there weed till no end. Till we stop doing there drugs in such mass quantity it'll always be a problem for mexico.
LiNuX
08-21-2009, 12:03 PM
Anyone caught with drug amounts under the personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment
that part literally made me lol.
no2rious killa
08-21-2009, 10:06 PM
They tried to make me go to rehab....but I said no esse no
MissLEGENDARY
08-23-2009, 06:40 PM
I don't really know how this will affect the "war on drugs" in the US but I really wish they would legalize and regulate marijuana here...that would be awesome. They could make a crazy amount of money from taxing it.
jakncoke
08-23-2009, 11:20 PM
I don't really know how this will affect the "war on drugs" in the US but I really wish they would legalize and regulate marijuana here...that would be awesome. They could make a crazy amount of money from taxing it.
This is very much what I want the country to do, so many billions could be saved and put into worthy projects.
LiNuX
08-25-2009, 01:04 PM
I don't really know how this will affect the "war on drugs" in the US but I really wish they would legalize and regulate marijuana here...that would be awesome. They could make a crazy amount of money from taxing it.
I think california is about to legalize marijuana. A group of people need 350,000 signatures and if they can get it, the whole issue will be put in the poll this coming november
interesting, I wonder if it will work. But I agree with you - they will make a ton of money from taxing it - it works with alcohol, why not with other drugs?
p.s. I'm not advocating drug usage.
LemonRising
08-25-2009, 01:19 PM
The only thing about that is it'll be taxed to hell.
Which is fine if you're an occasional user, but I feel bad for all the potheads.
In the end though, I agree with making it legal. It'll be like alcohol and smokes.
It'd be weird though.
Seeing people doing it openly.
LIKE YOUR MOM OR SOMETHING.
no2rious killa
08-26-2009, 01:42 AM
Just go to my moms house!
Haha not really they don't even drink let alone toke.
I would love nothing more than to enjoy some medical herd, but the benefits go far beyond just smoke.
We have plenty of untapped farm land prime for the hemp that could get this countries economy back in line. The only problem is we gotta keep the work here.
EpsilonX
08-27-2009, 06:21 PM
i hope it stays illegal, mostly because cigarettes are bad enough. if they decriminalize drugs, it's basically saying "okay we changed our minds, this isn't bad" and tons of people will start. I hate having to smell it and deal with people under the influence of weed.
Street_Soldier69
08-27-2009, 06:25 PM
i hope it stays illegal, mostly because cigarettes are bad enough. if they decriminalize drugs, it's basically saying "okay we changed our minds, this isn't bad" and tons of people will start. I hate having to smell it and deal with people under the influence of weed.
you think drunk driving was bad, imagine when there are stoned people on the road and drunk guys also, i will never get in a car again.
EpsilonX
08-27-2009, 06:28 PM
you think drunk driving was bad, imagine when there are stoned people on the road and drunk guys also, i will never get in a car again.
actually, i know ppl who've smoked, apparantly it increases your alert-ness. soo stoned drivers aren't that bad. but i just don't like the idea of people inhaling and exhaling all that smoke. blech. it's gonna be 10x harder to find a girl now since i refuse to date somebody who smokes/used to smoke/tried a cigarette.
Street_Soldier69
08-27-2009, 06:35 PM
actually, i know ppl who've smoked, apparantly it increases your alert-ness. soo stoned drivers aren't that bad. but i just don't like the idea of people inhaling and exhaling all that smoke. blech. it's gonna be 10x harder to find a girl now since i refuse to date somebody who smokes/used to smoke/tried a cigarette.
dude my mom and dad and uncle and aunt and other people in my family smoke weed, and so have i
EpsilonX
08-27-2009, 06:41 PM
dude my mom and dad and uncle and aunt and other people in my family smoke weed, and so have i
i'm extremely against smoking though.
Ubernerd
08-27-2009, 06:46 PM
Governments don't have the right to tell people what they can and cannot do to their bodies.
Good job Mexico.
LiNuX
08-27-2009, 07:13 PM
Governments don't have the right to tell people what they can and cannot do to their bodies.
Good job Mexico.
that's why you will never see anyone get convicted for USING drugs. All charges are about Possession. If someone is holding the drug and you're smoking it or taking it, the person holding it will get charged for possessing it, you'll get away free.
LemonRising
08-27-2009, 07:45 PM
that's why you will never see anyone get convicted for USING drugs. All charges are about Possession. If someone is holding the drug and you're smoking it or taking it, the person holding it will get charged for possessing it, you'll get away free.
That's pretty cool.
I'll keep it in mind <:
Unless it's different for Canada.
LiNuX
08-27-2009, 07:47 PM
That's pretty cool.
I'll keep it in mind <:
Unless it's different for Canada.
i have no idea how it is in Canada, I just studied US Criminal Law. Google it..
Street_Soldier69
08-27-2009, 07:47 PM
That's pretty cool.
I'll keep it in mind <:
Unless it's different for Canada.
i thought weed was legal in canada?
Sources:
The Simpsons(lol)
LemonRising
08-27-2009, 07:50 PM
i thought weed was legal in canada?
Sources:
The Simpsons(lol)
I really..
don't know
I know it was almost legal to possess small amounts.
But other than that idk
Street_Soldier69
08-27-2009, 07:53 PM
I really..
don't know
I know it was almost legal to possess small amounts.
But other than that idk
nevermind i googled it, is illegal, its just the charges are not as high as in US.
Trunks
08-27-2009, 09:43 PM
I bet this starts happening in American within the decade. I couldn't care less though. I have no plans in doing it.
I really..
don't know
I know it was almost legal to possess small amounts.
But other than that idk
I'm shocked that you didn't know that.
Very disappointed in you.
LemonRising
08-27-2009, 11:04 PM
I just smoke it.
I don't care what the punishment is B |
I don't approve of drugs.
They are bad don't do them.
MissLEGENDARY
08-28-2009, 02:51 PM
actually, i know ppl who've smoked, apparantly it increases your alert-ness. soo stoned drivers aren't that bad. but i just don't like the idea of people inhaling and exhaling all that smoke. blech. it's gonna be 10x harder to find a girl now since i refuse to date somebody who smokes/used to smoke/tried a cigarette.
Wow seems a little extreme to refuse to date a girl who has ever tried a cigarette. People make mistakes....I'm sure you aren't a complete saint.
Street_Soldier69
08-28-2009, 03:00 PM
Wow seems a little extreme to refuse to date a girl who has ever tried a cigarette. People make mistakes....I'm sure you aren't a complete saint.
lol true...
LemonRising
08-28-2009, 03:08 PM
Wow seems a little extreme to refuse to date a girl who has ever tried a cigarette. People make mistakes....I'm sure you aren't a complete saint.
Also
Completely agreed.
Unless they smoked that day and you can smell it on their breath..
get over it?
no2rious killa
08-28-2009, 09:20 PM
With Mexico and now Argentina legalizing personal use laws I believe Canada will be next since they already tolerate it more. Then hopefully the US will realize they can't control everything and do something.
There are way more methods of geting THC than smoking. Hell you can eat a cookie with it in it. But being a cigarette smoker I think its far more relaxing that way.
MissLEGENDARY
08-29-2009, 09:27 AM
With Mexico and now Argentina legalizing personal use laws I believe Canada will be next since they already tolerate it more. Then hopefully the US will realize they can't control everything and do something.
There are way more methods of geting THC than smoking. Hell you can eat a cookie with it in it. But being a cigarette smoker I think its far more relaxing that way.
haha eat a cookie...put on some lip gloss. I prefer smoking it as well.
no2rious killa
08-29-2009, 09:12 PM
I always wanted to try a vaporizor.....but too bad for good jobs n stupid drug polocies haha. Maybe once I retire....cause we all know america is stuburn.
Street_Soldier69
08-29-2009, 10:14 PM
I always wanted to try a vaporizor.....but too bad for good jobs n stupid drug polocies haha. Maybe once I retire....cause we all know america is stuburn.
dude, you must try a vaporizor, makes it taste so much better and it last soo much longer. doesnt harm your lungs either. (as much)
EpsilonX
08-30-2009, 12:59 AM
Wow seems a little extreme to refuse to date a girl who has ever tried a cigarette. People make mistakes....I'm sure you aren't a complete saint.
i've never done it, and i don't find it acceptable to try it. no matter what. and don't try to change my mind, just accept it.
Street_Soldier69
08-30-2009, 01:33 AM
Wow seems a little extreme to refuse to date a girl who has ever tried a cigarette. People make mistakes....I'm sure you aren't a complete saint.
everyone has their own life, let him live it the way he wants, thats just your opinion.
BobTD
02-23-2010, 02:52 PM
I think a personal use law would be better suited for just weed. I don't remember hard drugs ever having been legalized in any truly developed country. And I fear that this could do more harm then good. this will allow easier sales and provide more crime. How do you regulate people from making drugs more and more addictive when you create this situation? How many more people will become addicted to more dangerous drugs and how many crimes will be committed because of it? Not the mention that weed is the only (relatively, due to the tobacco) physically safe drug I can think of.
Marijuana has been tolerated in a few countries with very promising results. However the reasons for doing this have been to prevent hard drugs like cocaine from becoming popular and providing a safer alternative (along a list of many more reasons).
Also, as well as a personal use law they should either tolerate or legalize local business (like a few other countries have done) to provide naturally grown products for use or with food. The focus there would be to drain profit from illegal sources and drug lords who still export to other countries.
I have no idea where the current laws will bring the country, but I'm fairly certain that the hard drugs wont be tolerated forever. There are reasons why they where illegal in the first place. Weed was mostly illegal out of fear of a "gateway" type drug leading to stronger drugs, but that has not been the case in countries that now tolerate weed.
i refuse to date somebody who smokes/used to smoke/tried a cigarette.
I just want to lol at this, there is a difference between logic and prejudice. Besides, if you where lucky enough to find a truly good woman your views would change. No one meets someone and questions them weather or not they ever tried a cigarette as a prerequisite in real life, no one mature enough for a relationship at least.
And I don't mean to insult you in any way, and I'm not judging. I'm just saying what we post on the internet and how we really behave are two different things.
Jaykub
02-23-2010, 07:18 PM
i refuse to date somebody who smokes/used to smoke/tried a cigarette.
way to fail bro. thats not going to happen very easy...
Iceskater101
02-23-2010, 09:35 PM
i've never done it, and i don't find it acceptable to try it. no matter what. and don't try to change my mind, just accept it.
haha you can date me I have never smoked :D
kidding
but anyways my friend smokes and I hate it
its gross
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