about pentiums

[BIGDUDEJOE]

the pentium i7 looks really good but doesn any1 know what intel will bring out after the i7?????

[LiNuX]

Pentium and i7 are two different types of Intel Processors. It's Intel Pentium and Intel i7.

And I'm hoping to try out the i7 920 CPU on a new server soon and I have high hopes.

As for a CPU after i7, not sure, haven't heard any news about that.

[BIGDUDEJOE]

OK kool its just 3.20ghz processors have been around a very long time im just wondering when its going to go up to 6 or 7 ghz.

i know its 3.20 x 4 but its still 3.20 so when is 7.20 x 4 coming out coz the 3.20 has been around a very long time i can remember about 4 or 5 years ago a pentium 4 had 3.80.

ime still waiting on a 7.20 x 4.

[LiNuX]

You can overclock processors to run at 5+ GHz but that's really pushing it. It's not easy trying to push one single core to run too fast, I don't know the exact mechanics behind it though. SO what they do it just divide it up into dual cores and quad cores and it becomes 4x3.2ghz.

Doubt you'll see one processor with 7.2ghz speed in the commercial market anytime soon.

[BIGDUDEJOE]

yeah well no increase in the past 6 years???? and you cant even see an increase in clock speed coming any time soon???

[LiNuX]

over the past 6 years, CPU's have gone from being single core to quad core - that's a huge increase. Clock Speed isn't always that important. I suspect they'll be coming out with the 8-core CPU sooner or later (Think they are calling it multi-core now)

Other than that, I can't really answer for them. They may find it easier to split up the CPU's into different cores than trying to push the limit of current technology to go faster than physically possible. And I don't think any software out there would actually use a full core of power so they haven't found the incentive to go ahead and try. But I'm only speculating. I can't answer with a 100% certainty since I don't make the CPU's myself.

[BIGDUDEJOE]

the annoying thing is the games arent really getting much bigger or faster and i suspect its due to hard ware limits.

more attributes in skills more soldiers on the battlefield and bigger battlefilelds.

thiers no large scale rts or rpg games coming out. like cossacks the art of war or dungeon siege 2.

[LiNuX]

What do you mean games aren't getting much bigger? games nowadays are huge compared to 10 or even 5 years ago. They don't really need much resources, otherwise they become resource hogs and are less likely to sell.

And you can have an 8 core server with 16gb ram, if the game is resource intensive, it'll still give you problems. Core speed doesn't have much to do with the hardware lag if you have enough of it. And 3.2ghz on a single core is a lot of speed, considering my old HP used to have only 333mhz.

And if you mean by MMO's (Massive multiplayer online games) then that is usually limited by the network, not hardware. And it's limited by the server's network, not the client network. An infinite number of people can't connect to the same network before it starts to lag. Most servers nowadays run on a 100mbps port which is fast compared to 10-20 years ago where you had just a few megabits at max.

The network speed is constantly growing, some servers are on 1gbps and a few are on 10gbps ports around the world. The bigger and faster the network, the more connections it can handle at the same time. Also the server's RAM has a limitation along with CPUs but that's the beauty of upgrades. There are servers with terabytes of RAM and maybe hundreds of CPU cores running at 3.2ghz each.

You have the right idea that games are limited, but you're looking at the wrong thing. Most online games are limited by the server that runs it, and most offline games are limited by other hardware other than CPU. But like I said, you can always upgrade. If a game requires a single core 3.2ghz processor, you should have no trouble running it on a dual core 2.2ghz.

Looks like I went off a little...hadn't realized I said so much.

[BIGDUDEJOE]

the rts games are fought on smaller battlefields and the rpg charector statistics are more simple.

oh right i just realized you said that if a game needs 3.20ghz then you should have no problem running it on a 2.20 dual core is that bullet proof????

[LiNuX]

What do you mean "is that bullet proof?" Not familiar with that saying...

But it will work if that's what you're asking. A dual core shared the CPU load so the 3.2 would be equally shared between the other two.

My home server has a dual core amd Athlon cpu. (If i remember correctly it's a 2.8ghz CPU) - and whenever I look at the processes, the two cores are usually balanced on the load it takes. There is usually a spike on one or the other at times but the other one helps correct it by taking up some of the load. That's the beauty of multicore processors.

And I don't think there are any games out that would require so much speed. As I said before, 3.2ghz is a lot of power. And any game using it all up would be seen as inefficient.

[BIGDUDEJOE]

yeah but surely eventually some games will use 4ghz.

if a game need 9 ghz would a 2.66 quad do the job????

or would you need a 5 ghz dual core or a 10 ghz processor???

[LiNuX]

no one has the technology to create programs to use that much core speed. Maybe NASA has something but I highly doubt they use commercial grade processors. I also think programs (not just games) will eventually require more power, but I don't think it will be any time soon. Like I said before, it seems like the CPU's are getting upgrades on the amount of cores they have because it's far more efficient.

And Motherboards can have more than quad core. You can get a server mobo that can hold 4 CPU's at once, and get a quad core CPU with HT enabled and it'll show you 32 cores. Definitely more than enough to run that 9ghz game. There are always around this limitation thanks to multi-core processing.

But right now I think you're just worrying about something that won't affect us for a while. Or it may be something that may not come at all because if CPU manufacturers keep focusing on cores, they'll have 64 core CPUs and 128core cpus in the future with ease, no one will even pay attention to the core speed then because even at 1ghz speed per core, 64 cores will get you a further than any cpu out today. Just a little prediction of mine, could be wrong.

And now that I think about it...I saw a 3.8ghz CPU a while back on sale, forgot where. It was an Intel Quad Core CPU. Not too long ago, And no, it wasn't overclocked (not that I remember at least) - And I think it was a Xeon cpu...wish I kept note of it.

[EQDruid]

Intell Just announced a 48 Core Chip. Think about gaming then.

How that helps you?

When you assign each core to do a different job, you can expect better physics, lighting, faster load times, better AI, ect ect. and they can slip stream some cores to handle bigger problems, such as rendering it all in real time.

Expect Video cards to be chaeper or not needed in the near future, because the processor will be able to handle everything.

[LiNuX]

48 Core Chip huh..Would love to get my hands on that.

And I think you'll still need GPUs, unless they make it so that you can connect a monitor directly into the CPU (which would make upgrades much tougher) - interesting thought but I think these two will remain separate for a while.

Proves that core speed isn't everything.

[BIGDUDEJOE]

Intell Just announced a 48 Core Chip. Think about gaming then.

How that helps you?

When you assign each core to do a different job, you can expect better physics, lighting, faster load times, better AI, ect ect. and they can slip stream some cores to handle bigger problems, such as rendering it all in real time.

Expect Video cards to be chaeper or not needed in the near future, because the processor will be able to handle everything.

wow ARE YOU being serious that would be like 126 ghz 42 x 3.

could it actually run 126 programmes that use 1ghz each???

[LiNuX]

You'll still be limited by how much RAM you have - programs use a ton of memory as well. And it'll get hectic to manage a 126 programs running at the same time. Just imagine the alt+tab menu...

[EQDruid]

I run about 30 programs at once on my PC, even while Video chatting with my friends on Skype and Camfrog.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/IMGP0637.jpg?t=1260088163

Tho I am not your typical Gamer... LOL

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/eqdruid/IMGP9998.jpg