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LemonRising
06-13-2010, 01:42 PM
I need to figure out whats going on with this desktop, because my brother is blaming me for everything wrong with it lol.
"CAUSE YOU DOWNLOAD ALL THE MUSIC"
I've never used this computer to download music.


The Problem: When playing games (offline and online) there will be periods of lag that last around 1 minute. There doesn't seem to be any trigger, or any particular pattern as to when it happens. At the beginning it seemed to only be an online problem, but now its both online and offline. My drivers are up to date, I'm running AVG and its found nothing, Spybot found some malware but removed it.

Specs:

AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor
4gb memory/RAM
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 6001), 64-bit
GeForce 9100
Realtek High Definition Audio

It's an HP pavilion p6152f pc

notes: untrustworthy sites have more than likely been visited. Computer not maintained all that well. In fact when I checked on it today it was covered in dust. B | and the bugger blames ME. pff



Any help would be much appreciated. I would like to avoid sending it in to the best buy geeksquad because they're about as helpful as 'apple geniuses'.
haw

LiNuX
06-13-2010, 01:57 PM
ctrl+alt+del during your games and look at your CPU and Memory usage. See if any of them are unusually high and if they are, you can narrow down the problem.

Also try turning off AVG because virus scanning softwares are known to cause certain type of lag for computers.

LemonRising
06-13-2010, 02:30 PM
The only process that looks high in memory is svchost.exe SYSTEM 127,232k Host Process for Windows Services
and warcraft is running at 180,056k

and the only process that has a high cpu is system idle process, averaging 90.


Haven't tried to play a game without AVG yet. But will do <:


thanks for you help Linux, hopefully I can get to the bottom of this D:

LiNuX
06-13-2010, 02:32 PM
Yeah, AVG can be a pain sometimes. Hopefully that works.

LemonRising
06-13-2010, 03:02 PM
hah, I cant seem to shut all of avg down.
Theres still the
-AVG cache Server
-AVG Scanning Core Module - server part
-AVG Resident Shield Service

I could end the AVG Cache Server, but the other two wont die D:


[EDIT]
Okay, then when I shut down Warcraft, they all disappeared..

LiNuX
06-13-2010, 03:51 PM
Try to rerun the game and see if those things come back on. They could attach themselves to your games and cause the lag. Just a theory.

Do you happen to have an on board graphics card?

thedeparted
06-13-2010, 04:52 PM
probably all his porn surfing/dling -_-

LemonRising
06-13-2010, 05:06 PM
Started the game back up, they didn't return.

I'mmmm not sure if I do? D: hahaaa.. how would I find that out?





lol hes just been using me as a scapegoat lately so probably his fault, since it is basically his computer.

LiNuX
06-13-2010, 06:36 PM
Well, is the 9100gt an addon card? And perhaps asking your brother might help.

Also download speedfan or a similar program and look at he temperatures for your hardware. I used to lag in most games after playing for 20-30 minutes because the graphics card kept overheating. For several months I thought another program was interfering or something but it turned out the GPU was overheating.

Charlotte
06-13-2010, 08:16 PM
Well I found a way that might just work.

Download this software. What does the software do is stop any background programs that running on your computer while you play game. So that mean whenever you play games on your pc, the software will stop background programs that might cause your games to lag and slow. Or the software also allow you to choose manually a background programs that you wanna stop during you start the game. TRY IT! And it's free! Game Booster | Fast Game Accelerator | Free Accelerator (http://iobit.com/gamebooster.html)

LemonRising
06-13-2010, 08:39 PM
Well, is the 9100gt an addon card? And perhaps asking your brother might help.

Also download speedfan or a similar program and look at he temperatures for your hardware. I used to lag in most games after playing for 20-30 minutes because the graphics card kept overheating. For several months I thought another program was interfering or something but it turned out the GPU was overheating.

LOL you know, I was eating dinner, and I thought "you know what, my laptop over heated and had issues, that could be it. I should download speedfan."

My brother knows much less about computers than I do, and I don't know a hell of a lot. D:
but ah, if you mean, did we add on the graphics card after we bought it, no. The 9100 is what it came with, but ah, heres the page:
HP Pavilion p6152f Desktop PC Product Specifications HP Pavilion p6152f Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (Canada - English) (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01761442&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_ca/c01761442/loc:2&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=ca&product=3987114&lang=en)

anyways I'll download speedfan and make sure thats all good there

LiNuX
06-13-2010, 09:06 PM
Yeah, it's an on board GPU. That's probably why you're having issues. The 9100 isn't that high end. It might not be the GPU overheating, most likely it just can't handle games anymore so it stutters. Finding a replacement might do it.

But I'm mostly speculating the causes of the issue. Can't test any of your parts so I can't be certain on any of it because it could be so many things.

You can also get Everest Home Edition to look at the temperature if speedfan doesn't suit. Here is a link: |MG| EVEREST Free Edition 2.20 Download (http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html)

LemonRising
06-15-2010, 03:24 PM
Got speedfan. GPU running at 124.



So def gonna have to get a replacement I'm guessing.

LiNuX
06-15-2010, 09:41 PM
ouch...that's super hot. My old GPU used to get around 110-120 and I used to lag like crazy.

And If you haven't changed the settings, that's 124 Celsius.

LemonRising
06-15-2010, 10:14 PM
yeah I know D:
well it didnt help that my brother never turned the computer off.
and left dust to collect so that it blocked the vents.

Any suggestions as to what I should do/get? D:

LiNuX
06-15-2010, 10:25 PM
open it up and clean the pc. See if cleaning it can let the fans work and decrease the temperature.

If it doesn't work, get another graphics card and add it on.

LemonRising
06-15-2010, 10:28 PM
lol thought so <:

I'll have to give it a nice cleaning tomorrow.
Then yell at my brother.
He honestly treats the damn thing so bad, then blames me for everything and expects me to fix it like magic. If it needs a new graphics card he'll have to buy it hahahahaaa~


Thanks for your help Linux, glad to finally have a cause to the symptom.