Scientists solve chicken or egg dispute

[EpsilonX]

Scientists reportedly crack chicken-or-egg riddle (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38238685/ns/technology_and_science-science/)


'bout time.

[LiNuX]

I wonder how much they were paid for this breakthrough.

I also smell a Nobel prize coming their way.

[BocReaper]

I wonder what caused the chicken to make the egg. Mutation that proved useful?

[RaiDae]

*sigh* They fail to specify that the egg in question is that of a chicken. Unless chickens were in existance before dinosaurs, then surely the dino egg came first? Dino egg > chicken > chicken egg. NOT Chicken > all types of egg.
And what is to say that the species that the chicken evolved from, did not have that particular protein? They could have produced the first egg from which a chicken hatched.
Their theory is extremely flawed from what little I have seen and heard about it.

[BocReaper]

To be fair I didn't read it. Just checked the headline and figured they decided the chicken came before the chicken egg. Those are all good things to look at though.

[RaiDae]

Well, the two articles i've read on it are pretty basic. Chicken makes protein needed for egg. Therefore, chicken must have come first. and that's that. There are so many things to think about, not just that one.

[BocReaper]

Right. I just read it. That doesn't make much sense. Though at least they know something new? I suppose that's just a step. If there are major flaws hopefully the other scientists will catch it all. Then we may one day know.

[RaiDae]

I'll be embaressed to call myself a scientist if they don't look at the points I mentioned. But yeah, it is a breakthrough. Though why the hell are they spending money on solving that riddle?!? Ach well... nothing to be done about it

[BocReaper]

Texas spends money on a weather control program (I think? I know it exists here). Who knows, maybe something awesome will come of it. New uses of proteins? Some accidental advancement? At least we can eventually totally be sure of that riddle.

[RaiDae]

Wow... That's a bit mental. O.o
It could allow for us to perfectly re-create a chicken egg. Which would produce a chicken, which could produce another chicken. OR An egg which won't produce a chicken... and uh... yeah... Who knows, maybe it could solve world hunger?

[BocReaper]

There's something at least. Lab grown eggs to end world hunger. Worst comes worst at least we may possibly answer that age old riddle. That'd be kinda cool, but a total dead end.

[Endgameko]

well we pay scientists to take polls we may as well pay them for smug blasts of dooky brine like this

[EpsilonX]

okay, the chicken probably evolved out of some other species, and created an egg. maybe it evolved from a dinosaur? people say that dinosaurs evolved into birds. if that's the case, dinosaur eggs would probably have been created the same way. but an egg just wasn't created out of nowhere, life started as single cell organisms, which evolved into multi-cell organisms, which evolved into egg-laying organisms. so maybe the first chicken was hatched out of an egg, but whatever laid that egg came before it, and this can be traced all the way back to single cell organisms, which don't hatch from eggs.

[RaiDae]

okay, the chicken probably evolved out of some other species, and created an egg. maybe it evolved from a dinosaur? people say that dinosaurs evolved into birds. if that's the case, dinosaur eggs would probably have been created the same way. but an egg just wasn't created out of nowhere, life started as single cell organisms, which evolved into multi-cell organisms, which evolved into egg-laying organisms. so maybe the first chicken was hatched out of an egg, but whatever laid that egg came before it, and this can be traced all the way back to single cell organisms, which don't hatch from eggs.

...what the? hold up. lemme re-read that.
Okay, of course the egg didn't come out of no-where. it's actually quite complicated when you think about. Did the first chicken hatch from the egg of the species before, or did ...ahh.... i've lost it. I'm going round in circles now. It was all straightforward till you attempted that ...paragraph. I don't even know which you're saying came first...

[EpsilonX]

i'm saying life came first, and eventually life evolved and somewhere along the way, egg-laying came around. So egg laying came before chickens came around, yes. but there was life way before eggs.

[RaiDae]

i'm saying life came first, and eventually life evolved and somewhere along the way, egg-laying came around. So egg laying came before chickens came around, yes. but there was life way before eggs.

Lmao. Yes, obviously an egg of any sort came before the chicken. But this doesn't have anything to do with previous types of life. Only the egg and the chicken. Not the single celled organisms.

[EpsilonX]

what i'm saying though, is that even in prehistoric times, birds were laying eggs. so were dinosaurs, and scientists believe that dinosaurs evolved into birds (unless they changed their minds recently and i don't know about it)

so the first chicken MUST have hatched from an egg. Where else would it have come from?

[RaiDae]

so the first chicken MUST have hatched from an egg. Where else would it have come from?

The egg it hatched from did not have to be a chicken egg. The egg from its "parent species" may have produced the mutation which led to the chicken becoming a chicken. So that egg was technically not a chicken egg, but the egg of the "parent species". If that situation were true, the chicken came before the egg.

[DirtyDMan]

Now their hard a work on "Does a tree make a sound when if falls if no one around" age old question...

I still think it the egg.. What do a bunch of scientist know... Next thing you know theyre going to say we came from moneys...

Has anyone felt like throwing their crap at anyone lately? I dont think so..

[RaiDae]

I still think it the egg.. What do a bunch of scientist know... Next thing you know theyre going to say we came from moneys...

Of course we didn't come from monkeys. We didn't evolve from them, though they evolved from the same anscestor we did.
How often do monkeys throw their faeces around?

[DirtyDMan]

never been to a zoo? they throw crap all the time at kids....

[Jokersvirus]

Thats as pathetic as French or British, cant remember, scientist spending money to explain the personality disorder Darth Vader has.

[EpsilonX]

The egg it hatched from did not have to be a chicken egg. The egg from its "parent species" may have produced the mutation which led to the chicken becoming a chicken. So that egg was technically not a chicken egg, but the egg of the "parent species". If that situation were true, the chicken came before the egg.

the saying is "what came first, the chicken or the egg" not what came first the chicken or the chicken egg. the parent species's egg is still an egg, which hatched into a chicken. Therefore, the egg came first.