Cops taser a 57 year old school teacher repeatedly

[BobTD]

Warning, its disturbing.

Two US police officers have repeatedly tasered a... | Philip DeFranco Loves You (http://phillydtv.tumblr.com/post/834936503/two-us-police-officers-have-repeatedly-tasered-a)

So someone calls the cops for a legitimate reason, then tries to explain the situation when they arrive and the cops basically tell her to shut up. And she doesn't so they taser her, repeatedly.

The officer responsible should go to jail. Not just lose his job. How can someone who is sworn to uphold the law grossly abuse their power while causing malicious harm to others, and not end up in jail?

I think even a few months, anything that would get the message across. This isnt about loosing your job, this is about breaking the law and acting like the worst sort of scum while you are supposed to protect and serve. The consequence for this behavior should not be less sever because they are police officers, but more.

Anything less is just evidence of corruption from the top down.

[Jokersvirus]

I am against color of law violations, but only thing we see is the second officer rolling up, we dont see the first officer who gets to the scene and what happens. So alot of "we hate cops" site do this to try and anger people. Yes people resigned by it doesnt help the situation when only the part where the violence takes place. It hurts it because you arent showing the whole story you are only telling what you want to get an emotional response.

Its kinda like I assault you but you get arrested for it and somehow only you are shown beating on me when i started the whole thing. Thats my issue with this stuff.

NOW since this happened that whole department will be seen as crocked cops and scumbags.

SEE This is total crap: http://www.youtube.com/user/CopsOutofControl

[ShadowMantis]

i shouldnt say this but oh well who gives a F!

I seen it and first thing i did was laugh my a$$ off, then showed it 2 my brother., do i feel sorry 4 her....no, she should've shut the hell up

lol

[Subb]

i shouldnt say this but oh well who gives a F!

I seen it and first thing i did was laugh my a$$ off, then showed it 2 my brother., do i feel sorry 4 her....no, she should've shut the hell up

lol

lol shadow i could have sed it better myself.

[BobTD]

She called the cops because she feared a prowler was outside her house, when they arrived they tried to arrest her neighbor and when she tried to tell them that the black guy wasn't the prowler this happened. I dont see any indication that people trained to handle difficult people should jump to tasering a school teacher.

If something like that happened to you it wouldn't be funny right? But anyways this isnt a cop hating thread so much as a look at how laws dont seem to apply to everyone.

[Jokersvirus]

This is my problem how can you sit here and make judgements when we only see what happened from the second officer, hell wheres the radio chatter from the first officer, wheres the footage from the first officer.

Too many loopholes to try to give us a look "at how lows dont seem to apply to everyone" it video like this that makes people hate cops without justification.

[BobTD]

Because I dont care what happened before hand, when you start tasering someone like that it cramps their muscles and makes it difficult to move, and she was reportedly handcuffed on the ground.

They should have firmly helping her into the car like they are trained to instead of shocking her more. Thats the whole issue. Thats the part they handled wrong. Nothing else needs explaining.

[Jokersvirus]

Wait wait You dont care what happened before hand? You dont care what lead up to the officer using the taser? So what if the police were being attacked by the old lady and they use the taser and she started fighting and seconds later the second officer showed up??

Wouldnt that make a difference, yes.. But you dont care what happened before hand, your starting to make me believe you are against police officers. What if they were arresting her for assaulting them and she was still fighting, Ive seen people in their 60s fight with officers.

We dont have all the facts. just a video showing officers are doing something wrong when we dont know if it was justifiable.

and since a taser isnt considered deadly force it can be bought into play quicker so if you dont follow an officers commands its likely you will ride the lighting for a few moments. Also if your fighting with officers while handcuff you can still get tasered :D

And if they are in the wrong, after I see a report from both officers from start to finish I will make a judgement call, till then we dont know nothing beyond, she called the police due to a prowler might be out there.she was getting tasered she was reported handcuffed on the ground

[BobTD]

Wait wait You dont care what happened before hand? You dont care what lead up to the officer using the taser? So what if the police were being attacked by the old lady

Thats police footage you are seeing. The report given by the police would have mentioned if there was any real provocation for the police abuse, but there wasn't.

You sir, are assuming there is more to the story when it doesn't take sherlock to figure out that people would not lose their jobs for doing their job right.

[Jokersvirus]

There is more to the story.

Like i said in my example I start a fight with you beat the crap out of you you come back beat the living hell out of me and the video and catches you beating me and you go down for the crime. Local news only shows you hurting me and deems you as the bad person.

So it seems you have seen the police report, care to share it, cause its not on the link you provided nor the source.

That is what happens in this field, and its total crap. You wont there, you dont know if there is more to the story or not. I Refuse to make a judgement on police officers until I see a report from all reporting officers,ROs, or complete video footage from the time the officer received the call from dispatch till the situation was over.

Your making judgement calls off 30 seconds of video, wow i can show 30 seconds of anyone doing something wrong and deem them bad.



People are too judgmental on law enforcement, ALSO good officers do lose their job when they do what they are trained to do. You dont do what i say I will use whatever force is appropriate at that moment to get you to obey my commands.

did people lose their job, yes, so where is the reports submitted by the Ros? I would like to see that and the video.
if only 30 seconds of video is going to make me lose my job as a police officer, its most likely I will be killed in the field because I dont feel like getting sued or anything.

Heres another thing, People are calling that police brutality. We know nothing beyond what the "victim" said and what the video shows, which is only the officers doing something bad.

[Muffincat]

2 officers out of jobs in wake of repeated Tasering of woman | ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/2-officers-out-of-568967.html)

Here's some more, by someone who apparently read the police report.

And...FIGHT!

[novasheep]

I have a friend who is a cop so I know they have to use excessive force sometimes but that was extremely unnecessary. Wow....

[Jokersvirus]

Some have speculated there was a racial component to the altercation between Wells and the policemen;


“I don’t think they would have done a white female like that,” said Jones, who is black. “If they had, it wouldn’t have been any doubt about whether they need to be terminated.”

Yes lets make this a race case just to get some more money out of it and to make people hate the police even more. Great logic, if this was a racial issue, why wasnt the N word dropped, why wasnt other demeaning words dropped? Hmm? Makes no sense
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But all agree that the struggle between Wells, 57, and Murphy, 52, started because she would not tell him the name of a friend who was at her house in Richland, 35 miles southeast of Columbus, when Murphy arrived around 9:30 p.m. on April 26.



According to Robinson, Wells and the police reports, the officer only asked Robinson how long he had known Wells, the status of their relationship and where he lived. Murphy asked nothing more, not even Robinson's name.

Moments later Robinson left. Murphy wrote he let the man leave because it is best to seperate people in domestic violence situations.

“I could always arrest him later if I needed to since he lived nearby,” Murphy wrote in a report obtained by the AJC.




As Robinson pulled out of the driveway, Murphy asked Wells for her friend's name.

She refused to give it.

“'You don’t need to know that,'” Murphy wrote in his report was Wells' response. “I told her that she would need to give me the information that I needed or she would be arrested for obstruction. I explained that state law mandates that we investigate to determine if there has been any family violence.”

Not sure about this, he could have asked for it while he was there, but ya in alot of states if you dont answer the police officer's questions during an investigation You can be arrested. So thats a bit confusing.
Unless the officer believed he wasnt not a suspect he had no right to hold him so he let him go, which makes sense,but he should have asked for his name.
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She retrieved her purse and began walking around the side of her house until Murphy said he was taking her to jail.

“Janice then backed up from me in a fight or flight stance and I grabbed her arm and placed a handcuff on it,” Murphy wrote. “She pulled away and she took off. I sprayed her with pepper spray. I chased her around the house and tripped and fell, injuring my knee just as I caught up with her. As I was once again walking her to the car, she broke loose again and ran. She tripped and fell and I grabbed her again. As we got to the car, I attempted to get the other handcuff on her and get her in the car.”

Wells told the AJC, she finally stopped.

Ok she began to walk away from an investigation and the officer used his authority to arrest her, he is within his rights. She resisted arrest and took a fight or flight stance and a small chase happened.
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Smith is heard threatening a more aggressive setting on his Taser.

And then he used it again.

Smith said he probably discharged the Taser three or four times for a total of six seconds. One of those times, he shocked himself.

First off you cant use a "more aggressive setting on a taser," it is set at 50k volts You cant change that.
total of six seconds of shock, which could have been 15 to 20 seconds tops.


The sound from the video suggests he discharged the device at least four times.

Wells' attorney, Gary Parker, said it may have been as many as 12 times. Parker said no decision has been made on filing a lawsuit but he is talking with local officials about a resolution.

Yes the lawyer knows best doesnt he? Oh wait he just wants more money. Go figure right?
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So ok, they are fired because of a small situation where the officer did something wrong and didnt ask for the other person's name ok. She refused to give it she walked away and he arrested her and used a taser to get her under control, what is wrong with this situation?

/sigh

I find it funny, people say using a taser is extreme force and brutality, yet using a dog is under the taser on the force continuum, did you guys know that?

[BobTD]

It was another police officer who speculated it may have a race component. Is that l=police officer conspiring against the police then? Your not even arguing on topic anyways. I haven't said anything about race being a factor, just that the police handled the situation wrong.

So yeah, my basic reaction to the article seems to be right on the money.

The rest of your post is pretty much supporting my position, so meh.

And yes it makes sense that the taser is under the "extreme force" classification if it is considered more dangerous then using a trained dog. It probably has to do with potentially permanent and unpredictable damage cause by electro shock. While a dog is used usually to find drugs. Sometimes for intimidation, but almost never as an attack dog.

[Jokersvirus]

Ok Ok,

I am curious. So explain in detail why a taser should be considered "extreme force." heres a good question for you, can police officers tase someone who is in handcuffs?
I would like for you to justify to me why these police officers are in the wrong. Situation after situation after situation are cops put on trail by the media and the community for using force, judged by those who know nothing about police operations. Its like this how are you, a person who knows nothing about law enforcement or force tactics, able to make a judgement saying that police were in the wrong?