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WobbleSock
11-23-2010, 05:21 AM
High alert as North Korea fires on South


Two South Korean marines were killed on Tuesday when North Korea shelled a border island, the military said.

Announcing the deaths, General Lee Hong-Ki also told a briefing that five marines were seriously hurt in the artillery barrage and 10 suffered minor injuries, while three civilians were hurt.

South Korea's YTN television says two civilians were injured by the shelling on Yeonpyeong island.

North Korea fired dozens of artillery shells onto the South Korean island, triggering an exchange of fire as southern armed forces went on their highest state of alert.

In what appeared to be one of the most serious border incidents since the 1950-53 war, South Korea's government convened in an underground war room and air force jets were reportedly scrambled to the Yellow Sea island.

The firing came after North Korea's disclosure of an apparently operational uranium enrichment program - a second potential way of building a nuclear bomb - which is causing serious alarm for the United States and its allies.

About 50 North Korean shells landed on the South Korean border island of Yeonpyeong near the tense Yellow Sea border, damaging dozens of houses and sending plumes of thick smoke into the air, YTN television reported.

"A North Korean artillery unit staged an illegal firing provocation at 2.34pm local time (1634 AEDT) and South Korean troops fired back immediately in self-defence," a South Korean ministry spokesman told AFP.

"A Class-A military alert issued for battle situations has been imposed immediately," the spokesman said.

One island resident, Lee Jong-Sik, told YTN: "At least 10 houses are burning. I can't see clearly for the smoke. The hillsides are also on fire.

"We were told by loudspeakers to flee our homes."

Yeonpyeong lies just south of the border declared by United Nations forces after the inconclusive war six decades ago but north of the sea border declared by Pyongyang.

The Yellow Sea border was the scene of deadly naval clashes in 1999, 2002 and last November.

Tensions have been acute since the sinking of a South Korean warship in March, which Seoul says was the result of a North Korean torpedo attack. Pyongyang has angrily rejected the charge.

In late October, North and South Korean troops exchanged fire across their Cold War border, coinciding with a state of high alert for the South's military in the buildup to the G20 summit of world leaders in Seoul earlier this month.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency security meeting in response to the latest incident, a presidential spokesman said.

"He is now in an underground war room to discuss possible responses with ministers of related agencies and national security advisers," the spokesman told AFP.

Lee urged the officials to "handle it (the situation) well to prevent further escalation", the spokesman said.

The firing comes after Kim Jong-un, the little-known youngest son of leader Kim Jong-il, was officially recognised as No.2 in North Korea's political system, clouding outsiders' view of its military and nuclear intentions.

The new crisis erupted as a US special envoy headed to China on Tuesday to seek its help in curbing North Korea's new nuclear project, revealed to US experts who described a sophisticated program to enrich uranium.

Stephen Bosworth has also visited South Korea and Japan this week to discuss the disclosure, which US officials say would allow the isolated North to build new atomic bombs.

Bosworth, speaking in Tokyo, ruled out a resumption of stalled six-nation talks - aimed at disarming the North of nuclear weaponry in return for aid and other concessions - while work continues on the enrichment program.

China chairs the talks and is also the North's sole major ally and economic prop. It has come under pressure to play a leading role in resolving the latest nuclear dispute.

China appealed for the six-party talks to resume after the new revelations, and expressed concern over Tuesday's cross-border firing.

"We have taken note of the relevant report and we express concern over the situation," foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters.

"We hope the relevant parties do more to contribute to peace and stability on the Korean peninsula," he said. Russia also warned against an escalation of tensions on the peninsula.

Link to article below:

High alert as North Korea fires on South - Yahoo!7 (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/8376687/north-korea-shells-hit-south-korea-island/)

It looks like some really serious sh*t is going down on the Peninsula. Lets hope that they do something to stop that idiot sitting in Pyongyang while his people starve.


South Korea was "Conducting Drills" before North Korea fired

South Korea says it was conducting regular military drills off the west coast before North Korea started firing dozens of shells, but that its firing exercises did not aim to the North.

"We were conducting usual military drills and our test shots were aimed toward the west, not the north," a South Korean military official said.

On Tuesday afternoon North Korea launched an artillery barrage on a South Korean island in one of the most serious clashes since the end of the Korean War nearly 60 years ago.

Two South Korean soldiers died, while more than a dozen others have been wounded and a number of houses caught fire.

North Korea said Seoul had initiated the firing of shells, prompting it to take instant military action.

"Despite our repeated warnings, South Korea fired dozens of shells... and we've taken strong military action immediately," the North's official KCNA news agency said in a brief statement.

Media reports say about 50 North Korean artillery shells slammed into the island of Yeonpyeong, about 3km south of the Yellow Sea border and 120km west of Seoul.

Residents were forced to flee as the shells hit homes and set them ablaze.

Defence minister Kim Tae-Young says the South fired 80 shots in response during an exchange that lasted for about an hour.

Seoul has raised its alert to the highest level and the security cabinet has met in an underground bunker.

South Korean F-16 fighter planes have also been scrambled to the island.

The Yellow Sea border has been the site of several exchanges of fire, with naval clashes claiming a number of lives.

Today's exchange was the most serious between the two Koreas in years and comes days after the North announced it had a new uranium enrichment facility.

The incident has drawn international condemnation.

LiNuX
11-23-2010, 06:53 AM
that's not a good sign...and I thought this week was going to be pretty good and peaceful.

jango
11-23-2010, 06:59 AM
I find it interesting that most of the news coverage (at least here) suggests that aggression was ONLY on the side of N.Korea though .. perhaps my satirical senses are too over-sensitive ..

RecreationalGamer
11-23-2010, 07:13 AM
don't worry everybody...

http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/team-america.jpg

Jokersvirus
11-23-2010, 08:18 AM
don't worry everybody...

http://whatwouldtotowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/team-america.jpg

AMERICA F*** YEAH COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHER********** DAY-AY.

Had to be done.


Bah, Glass North Korea and be done with it.

RecreationalGamer
11-23-2010, 08:34 AM
I promise...I will never die.

No but all joking aside, N. Korea said S. Korea fired first. meanwhile, Pyongyang still trying to say his name backwards...

Mordry
11-23-2010, 03:15 PM
That could be a very big problem, maybe the 3. worldwar is more nearly than we think.

Do you heared about Letterbombs? Bombs from Greece in form of letters was send to the U.S.A. and Germany. In Germany the target was the "Bundestag", maybe some of you know how important that building is. I don't know which target was fixed in the USA. The letterbombs was send from Greece.

Now that, I think that can't be just random.

Oh man, U.S.A. warn Northkorea and are ready to protect southkorea, China is an allied of north, but russia are on southkoreas side. I don't like this and I don't want that another war is coming.

PS: I tried to write this text so understandable as I can in 6 minutes.

Jaykub
11-23-2010, 04:26 PM
We all saw this coming but hopefully it doesn't last long or turn into a full blown war.

BobTD
11-23-2010, 04:57 PM
This is surprising and a little scary to be honest. I became friends with a south Korean girl while she studied here for two year and she said she couldn't imagine the north or south attacking each other.

In her eyes, the people thought of the peninsula as Korea, and while there where different claims to power she didnt think there would be any more violence. I worried about her, I think she should move her and stay with me...

Iceskater101
11-23-2010, 05:16 PM
jeez this is kinda scary
we could be in another world war
personally I don't want to be in a world war we have other issues we need to sort out and another war is not something we need to be in right now
but thats just my opinion

OMFG Its Barbie
11-23-2010, 05:35 PM
oh dear god...

... there not gona do sh*t cause nobody is going to back there a**es this time. thats too close to china and russia. there not gona let anything of a nuclear nature happen. heck russia and china both can bomb them and korea wont be missed.

Ilyich Valken
11-23-2010, 08:50 PM
Obama: U.S. will defend South Korea - World news - Asia-Pacific - North Korea - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40329269/ns/world_news-asiapacific)

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jango
11-23-2010, 08:52 PM
Obama: U.S. will defend South Korea - World news - Asia-Pacific - North Korea - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40329269/ns/world_news-asiapacific)

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let's hope this is true and not just spin ..


Yet with its options limited, the U.S. sought a diplomatic rather a military response to one of those most ominous clashes between the Koreas in decades.

Ilyich Valken
11-23-2010, 08:53 PM
let's hope this is true and not just spin ..

Can only hope.

Jokersvirus
11-23-2010, 08:57 PM
I must say that we, the US, can not be the world police. If people want to go to war and kill one another and destroy their own existence because they are too stupid to be able to live together because they cant talk it out and violence is the only answer. THEN, THEN when they kill each other dead and no one is left, glass the two countries and make it into a parking lot :D.

/ foamy moment

Ilyich Valken
11-23-2010, 09:00 PM
I must say that we, the US, can not be the world police. If people want to go to war and kill one another and destroy their own existence because they are too stupid to be able to live together because they cant talk it out and violence is the only answer. THEN, THEN when they kill each other dead and no one is left, glass the two countries and make it into a parking lot :D.

/ foamy moment

One of my friend's suggested that.. except it was more like pull out our troops and glass the place and get it over with,

Jokersvirus
11-23-2010, 09:01 PM
Well of course, remove the troops, let them do that and let the troops get some beer and popcorn and watch the good times roll

Agent-Of-Death
11-24-2010, 12:27 AM
Kind of a sad thought really- ive got one of my best friends living in south korea- hope she is alright- north korea's gonna get what's coming to em- just a matter of time now... and the talk of this being a 3rd world war- i say bring it on- we all survived the last 2, who's to say we wont survive again?

WobbleSock
11-24-2010, 01:44 AM
who's to say we wont survive again?

The last two times we didn't have nuclear weapons.

If this does turn out into a war, I doubt any nukes will be fired even by North Korea. The last missile they tested landed in the middle of the sea. The worst they can do is fill up their howitzer shells with chemical / biological weapons and bomb Seoul from their border.

Dess
11-24-2010, 04:00 AM
Ok...

I'm going to say the same thing I said when everything happened with Iraq. Two wrongs don't make a right. AND bombing the **** out of a country isn't going to do anything but incite more violence and hatred.

I'm sorry, but I've held my tounge long enough... prepare for a huge tangent about being against war based solely on the fact that a country's people shouldn't be punished for the decisions it's political powers make, or for the actions it's extremist groups take. A few people instigating violence is NOT reason to kill off an entire population of people. So.. for everyone saying to just nuke the country... I say this... GROW UP! It would be as though our president or one of our extremist groups went to another country, did something incredibly stupid and millions of Americans dieing for it. GRANTED. We get to CHOSE our leader... many others don't get that luxury.

I honest to god wish some of you would THINK about the consequences of some of the things you are saying. Some of you guys are coming across as nothing more than a redneck on the news screaming about "wipin them there fellas off tha face of the earth" and not taking into count the fact there are innocent people who live there... more innocent people than guilty ones.

This is serious. It's not a joke... and it's not freaking funny.

Ilyich Valken
11-24-2010, 07:44 AM
Just got the record.. I never said nuke them. My friends/classmates said that when we were talking about it before class. I personally think we should stay the hell out of it. Like Joker said, we can't go around pretending to be the world police fixing other people's problems when we're already over our heads in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Jokersvirus
11-24-2010, 08:19 AM
North Korea are violent people it seems According to the article "The supreme military command in Pyongyang threatened more strikes if the South crossed their maritime border by "even 0.001 millimeter,"" North Korea will open fire... if they cross the maritime border by that much of a MM. That shows their inability to be reason with by talking it out and shows that they rather respond with violence than with peace talks.

LiNuX
11-24-2010, 10:05 AM
Thread is supposed to be about the discussion about the article, and it wasn't meant to feed our need of more violence. So before this thread goes any further, I'm ending it.

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