Could you do it?

[Jokersvirus]

Im not trying to cause drama, fighting, or even anything, my intent is to ask you guys to do one thing. Pass this article along to others. The article is about police officers in the field and how dangerous their job is. This is about helping public relations of law enforcement.

New video campaign shows dangers of police work - Law Enforcement News (http://www.policeone.com/news/3138906-New-video-campaign-shows-dangers-of-police-work/)

[leica]

too bad they spend a lot of their time arresting harmless people using harmless drugs

[Jokersvirus]

They spend their time upholding the law, and if that includes arresting people for using drugs for stupid reasons so be it.

[W1CKEDTW1STED]

Not to start a commotion, but I personally appreciate Firefighters way more than I will ever appreciate the PD.

When the do the "Fill The Boot" I always donate. The PD only send a phone call around asking for money, which in return I tell them to piss off and take it out of any tickets they may give me.

[Jayhmmz]

Not to start a commotion, but I personally appreciate Firefighters way more than I will ever appreciate the PD.

When the do the "Fill The Boot" I always donate. The PD only send a phone call around asking for money, which in return I tell them to piss off and take it out of any tickets they may give me.

+1.

I agree totally. Firefighters take much more of a risk doing what they do. They also tend to save lives more in the grand scale of things.

[EpsilonX]

too bad they spend a lot of their time arresting harmless people using harmless drugs

Drugs are Illegal. Part of being a police officer is upholding the law, whether or not you agree with it.

[leica]

cops care more about making money than helping people. firefighters, emts, etc. are actually doing something good, while cops spend a great deal of time just giving out traffic tickets and arresting drug users, because it's just too damn easy. marijuana use is more common than you'd like to think and law enforcement puts loads of money into prosecuting drug users because they don't have to work too hard to arrest them and there are so many. government money that would be better spent on education, healthcare, anything else.

though i guess i should blame the government rather than the cops themselves

this post brought to you by copious amounts of tetrahydrocannabinol and anger

[EpsilonX]

cops care more about making money than helping people. firefighters, emts, etc. are actually doing something good, while cops spend a great deal of time just giving out traffic tickets and arresting drug users, because it's just too damn easy. marijuana use is more common than you'd like to think and law enforcement puts loads of money into prosecuting drug users because they don't have to work too hard to arrest them and there are so many. government money that would be better spent on education, healthcare, anything else.

though i guess i should blame the government rather than the cops themselves

this post brought to you by copious amounts of tetrahydrocannabinol and anger

As far as i know, cops don't go out looking for drug users. If somebody's doin drugs, they'll arrest them. And aside from marijuana, doin drugs is pretty stupid, and should be stopped. I think part of why marijuana is still illegal is because the government gets a lot of money from fines. But the government likes it illegal because it's a "gateway drug" as in, most people don't just wake up and say "lets sniff some coke" they start off tryin some weed, and sometimes start doin other things. lots of people stop with weed, but the ones that start doin the hard drugs start with marijuana. It's their gateway into other drugs. Of course, there probably are some people that start with somethin crazier than weed

[leica]

cops don't go out looking for drug userssure they do, people get arrested and go to jail all the time for possession of fractions of a gram, because maybe they had it on them while they were driving, or their neighbors smelled the pot...


aside from marijuanaand most psychedelics. they are also safe unless your judgment is absolutely ridiculous and/or you're schizophrenic, in which case those specific people should stay away.


because the government gets a lot of money from finesyep, pretty much their only incentive to keep it illegal


"gateway drug"gateway drug theory is false, less than 2% of marijuana users go on to pick up a habit with a "harder" drug. yes, many people who do heroin will also smoke pot, but 1) they don't always smoke first, 2) a good portion of the population in general smokes pot anyway, so if you find someone doing heroin, yes, it is likely that they will also smoke, and 3) because cannabis is illegal, we have to buy it from sketchy guys who also sell harder drugs, and a lot of these dealers will keep pushing their product because they want to make money.


derail threads all day errday

[Jaykub]

Lets get back on topic.. No more drug talk.

[EpsilonX]

Lets get back on topic.. No more drug talk.

This IS on topic. We're talking about police officers and their actions against drug users. now one sec...

And Leica, if the "gateway drug" theory is false, then everybody's going go just wakeup and do heroine, right? Nobody is going to obviously believe that anyone who does marijuana is gonna go do other things, it's just most people smoke weed, and those people are a lot more likely to do other drugs than somebody who does nothing. Actually, it probably IS false, just a correlation. If somebody smokes weed it's not going to make them say "oh lets do all these other drugs" but a person who is willing to smoke weed is probably a bit more likely to move on than somebody who doesn't

okay, time to make it on topic.

Point of it is that police officers aren't going around trying to ruin everybody else's day. The government thinks it's in the people's best interests to have drugs illegal, and the duty of the police officer is to uphold the law. A police officer isn't going to see a dude in a volkswagon bus with a pink floyd shirt and dreads and say "that dudes gotta have some drugs lets go bust him" But if that person is speeding, and the police officer pulls him over and can smell weed, or sees weed, or some other drug, then his sworn duty as a police officer is to enforce the law. They don't say "lets go bust some druggies today" Well, maybe some people do enjoy busting druggies, but that doesn't come with the job, it's their personality.

[Jokersvirus]

cops care more about making money than helping people. firefighters, emts, etc. are actually doing something good, while cops spend a great deal of time just giving out traffic tickets and arresting drug users, because it's just too damn easy. marijuana use is more common than you'd like to think and law enforcement puts loads of money into prosecuting drug users because they don't have to work too hard to arrest them and there are so many. government money that would be better spent on education, healthcare, anything else.

though i guess i should blame the government rather than the cops themselves

this post brought to you by copious amounts of tetrahydrocannabinol and anger

Cops dont care about making money, people dont go into law enforcement for the money most police officers going into the academy make maybe 30,000 a year after they make a little over 35,000. As firefighters and EMTS do good as well police officers take bullets for people, police officers are the ones who go into danger to protect people if thats selfish and not doing good for the general public im out of my mind then.

Yes they do give traffic tickets, I wont address the drug part as because jaykub said in a post not to, people speeding is dangerous, driving a 4 ton death machine at high speeds, and no they normally dont ticket people for going over 5 or so miles an hour, if it is a serious issue on a road way they will ticket for 5 over but if its just some random night an officer normally wont ticket till about 12 over, and honestly going more than an extra 5 miles an hour is just stupid. Yes cops do speed but you cant justify speeding off that because you do not know if they are responding to a call or something. Speeding is bad and will lead to accidents and death and its a little known fact that if there is an issue that needs to be addressed a law will be created. Even if a police officer is off duty and in the squad car they have their radios on incase they get a serious call and they must respond to.



The best part about law enforcement is this... We will always have job security because of the stupid criminals.

[Ilyich Valken]

Yes cops do speed but you cant justify speeding off that because you do not know if they are responding to a call or something. Speeding is bad and will lead to accidents and death and its a little known fact that if there is an issue that needs to be addressed a law will be created.

Probably the only contribution I'm going to make, but.. just them being cops doesn't justify their speeding. If they're responding to a call, they're required to have their lights and siren on.. I've seen plenty of cops speed without either on. Cop or not, those instances can't really be justified.

[Jokersvirus]

, they're required to have their lights and siren on.. I've seen plenty of cops speed without either on. Cop or not, those instances can't really be justified.


No their not, if its a high priority call of an officer down, shots fired, someone needs help NOW, yes they have to have their lights on, if its a B&E in progress or something along those lines no they dont having their lights and sirens on will make the suspect get away and therefore no arrest will be made and the community will see that as a fail and the police department will be shunned.

[leica]

Marijuana isn't a gateway drug. For most, it is the only illicit drug they will ever try. A good deal of marijuana users first try marijuana because they are simply open-minded. This same trait, if expressed a bit stronger, could also make them open to other drugs. Yet even if weed didn't exist, they would still manage to find these other substances. The majority of marijuana users, however, are well-educated on the effects of other substances and generally know which ones to stay away from. Now, drug dealers may be a gateway -- if your guy tempts you with a bag of coke whenever you want to buy weed from him, and you give in to the temptation, well then that's just a flaw in your personality. The great majority of smokers know how to say no.

"This evidence supports what's known as the common liability model ... [which] states [that] the likelihood that someone will transition to the use of illegal drugs is determined not by the preceding use of a particular drug, but instead by the user's individual tendencies and environmental circumstances..."
Marijuana Use Per Se Not a 'Gateway' To Illicit Drug Use, Study Says - NORML (http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7118)

"Genetic factors are known to play a role in the likelihood of abuse for drugs other than marijuana..."
Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6376&page=97)

"Because it is the most widely used illicit drug, marijuana is predictably the first illicit drug that most people encounter. Not surprisingly, most users of other illicit drugs used marijuana first.81,82 In fact, most drug users do not begin their drug use with marijuana—they begin with alcohol and nicotine, usually when they are too young to do so legally.82,90"

"...Many of the factors associated with a willingness to use marijuana are, presumably, the same as those associated with a willingness to use other illicit drugs."

Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6376&page=99)


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most police officers going into the academy make maybe 30,000 a year after they make a little over 35,000.people who join typical municipal law enforcement often have no alternatives better than food service. that's all too often the way it is in my city. those are the ones that are only in it for the money.


police officers are the ones who go into danger to protect peoplei did not deny that they do good and i acknowledge this, but that doesn't mean they have to arrest everyone who they find a dimebag on, because they aren't hurting anyone by having a gram of weed


people speeding is dangerousnot necessarily


4 ton death machinei don't believe the majority of vehicles on the road weigh four tons


no they normally dont ticket people for going over 5 or so miles an hourin my city they do. maybe cops here are just douchebags?


and honestly going more than an extra 5 miles an hour is just stupidi don't know man, i'm a pretty damn good driver at around 80.


if there is an issue that needs to be addressed a law will be created.not always the case, cough cough marijuana prohibition. but this is the government's fault, not the cops, i guess.


The best part about law enforcement is this... We will always have job security because of the stupid criminals.le will always have job security because they never run out of harmless potheads to bust :P

[EpsilonX]

lol well i basically agreed with you about the gateway drug thing, look at the end of my post.

but in law enforcement class, they said that a cop's job is to enforce the law. Something as minor as having a bit of weed to something as major as killing people, it's still breaking the law, and that's a cop's job. Some cops are really like "i have to enforce this law" and some cops are more lenient. It all comes down to the personality behind the badge in situations like that, but the job of a police officer is to punish people for doing things that are illegal. Possession of marijuana is illegal, even if it is harmless. If anything, blame the government for keeping marijuana illegal.

[Jokersvirus]

people who join typical municipal law enforcement often have no alternatives better than food service. that's all too often the way it is in my city. those are the ones that are only in it for the money.
I dont think people sign up for law enforcement because they had no better alternatives than food service. Putting your life on the line, possibility of getting shot on a daily basis, pretty sure if people had food service as an alternative they would take that.


i did not deny that they do good and i acknowledge this, but that doesn't mean they have to arrest everyone who they find a dimebag on, because they aren't hurting anyone by having a gram of weed
Drugs are illegal and they shouldn't be carrying, as you posted something regarding weed who cares, its illegal cops have to enforce, and 9 times out of 10 they arrest some drug user for a gram or so because the dude is being a complete ahole to the officer and therefore uses his authority to make an arrest to teach the punk a lesson. As I do see weed as a means to bring income to the state and what not beyond that everyone who smokes weed only makes the arguments to make it legal so they wont get busted and get fines, and have to go to court.


not necessarily

People speeding is dangerous, just because they speed and havent gotten serious harm or killed someone doesnt justify it. Therefore you speed you deserve a ticket, unless there is some emergency that demands you get from A to B in a hurry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXsugd8ttA8&feature=related


i don't believe the majority of vehicles on the road weigh four tons
quoting me on how much a vehicle weights isnt the point of the post in general. Speeding is the problem and speeding can kill people.


in my city they do. maybe cops here are just douchebags?
they ticket for going 5 over then there is an issue with speeding and by law going less then or over than the posted limit is illegal and they can ticket but it wont hold up in court.




not always the case, cough cough marijuana prohibition. but this is the government's fault, not the cops, i guess.
You push really hard that weed isnt bad, if you believe it so go get the laws changed. even if pot was legal it would still be illegal to smoke and drive and people would still go to jail take up the court's time for stupidity and other nonsense.


le will always have job security because they never run out of harmless potheads to bust :P
IE stupid criminals.

[EpsilonX]

I agree with all of Joker's points. Speed limits are determined, i'm assuming, based on how safe it will be to drive at a certain speed through an area. On a long, straight, country road the speed limit will be a lot higher than it is in a city by a school. It seems like it should be common sense

Just cuz a car can go like 160, doesn't mean it should, unless you're on like an endless stretch of pavement with nothing else around.

[leica]

i'll agree that i'm a reckless driver and speeding is bad etc but


its illegal cops have to enforce, and 9 times out of 10 they arrest some drug user for a gram or so because the dude is being a complete ahole to the officer and therefore uses his authority to make an arrest to teach the punk a lessonthey don't /have to/. if they make a traffic stop and find weed, they don't have to do anything about it. i know plenty of guys who have been very kind to the cops and still gotten their asses in jail for a half eighth. and most importantly, cannabis user ≠ punk


IE stupid criminals.ಠ_ಠ
so everyone who smokes cannabis is a stupid criminal

[Jokersvirus]

they don't /have to/. if they make a traffic stop and find weed, they don't have to do anything about it. i know plenty of guys who have been very kind to the cops and still gotten their asses in jail for a half eighth. and most importantly, cannabis user ≠ punk

Again, they shouldnt have been carrying. If its illegal to carry and you have it in your car and you think it might be a possibility you might get pulled over yet you still have it on you or in the car thats just pure stupidity. Different states different laws, plus police departments have their own policies on what they must do with certain things, IE click it or ticket, etc etc.

people who smoke pot = punk for the reason of they want it to be legal for the simple reason of being allowed to smoke in public without getting harassed by the cops.

* quick note, you might be asking yourself how would i know if it might be a possibility i might be getting pulled over, well its one of those unknown factors of day to day living and therefore people who smoke pot shouldnt be carrying at all.

ಠ_ಠ
so everyone who smokes cannabis is a stupid criminal

Yes, anyone who smokes pot is a stupid criminal and they need to be arrested. You want to break the law face the consequences for your actions, IE your "plenty of guys" who have been arrested for holding. Stupidity breeds stupidity and getting arrested for stupid acts, IE smoking pot, can fix this unless they are hardcore and wont learn a lesson in jail.

[EpsilonX]

they don't /have to/. if they make a traffic stop and find weed, they don't have to do anything about it. i know plenty of guys who have been very kind to the cops and still gotten their asses in jail for a half eighth. and most importantly, cannabis user ≠ punk

actually, yes they do. sometimes they don't, but they're supposed to.

[Jaykub]

Yes, anyone who smokes pot is a stupid criminal and they need to be arrested. You want to break the law face the consequences for your actions, IE your "plenty of guys" who have been arrested for holding. Stupidity breeds stupidity and getting arrested for stupid acts, IE smoking pot, can fix this unless they are hardcore and wont learn a lesson in jail.


Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Some of the greatest people that ever lived and half of our forum would be a "stupid criminal"

The worst thing is.. most of the elected officials and policemen you worship have admitted to smoking weed.

and just because you break a law doesn't mean your stupid. I'm sure you have broken a law in your life.

[Jokersvirus]

Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Some of the greatest people that ever lived and half of our forum would be a "stupid criminal"

The worst thing is.. most of the elected officials and policemen you worship have admitted to smoking weed.

and just because you break a law doesn't mean your stupid. I'm sure you have broken a law in your life.

Out of... 1.5 million officers in the united states your going to state that, I would say out of those who smoke pot in law enforcement they take up .1% if that. How much have smoked weed is there a percent of officers in the past year or so who have admitted to smoking? Most likely not, saying that is a tactic to try and justify furtherer that its ok to smoke pot because cops do it. Do I Support them smoking weed no, do I support them trying to find a means in which to relax after completing a shift and coming home after a very stressful day? Yes. Yes I worship them because of what they do, is that wrong? I show support for law enforcement I dont see you going out and taking a bullet for complete strangers.

Ya, doing drugs is stupid, there is no justification for it, If your stupid enough to carry drugs on you and you get caught by law enforcement that is stupidity if you smoke pot and argue it should be legal only for the justification of I dont want to get busted by the cops anymore thats stupid.

You might call it the stupidest thing you've ever heard but if your stupid enough to do drugs because you believe you have a had life or just want to relax and what not is just plain stupidity.

Have I broken the law yes I have when I was younger was I stupid back then yes, but I learned from my mistakes, some people cant learn IE smoking pot, so they are a stupid criminal.

[EpsilonX]

Out of... 1.5 million officers in the united states your going to state that, I would say out of those who smoke pot in law enforcement they take up .1% if that. Yes I worship them because of what they do, is that wrong? I show support for law enforcement I dont see you going out and taking a bullet for complete strangers.

Ya, doing drugs is stupid, there is no justification for it, If your stupid enough to carry drugs on you and you get caught by law enforcement that is stupidity if you smoke pot and argue it should be legal only for the justification of I dont want to get busted by the cops anymore thats stupid.

You might call it the stupidest thing you've ever heard but if your stupid enough to do drugs because you believe you have a had life or just want to relax and what not is just plain stupidity.

Have I broken the law yes I have when I was younger was I stupid back then yes, but I learned from my mistakes, some people cant learn IE smoking pot, so they are a stupid criminal.

The thing is though, smoking pot isn't harmful for you in any way, thus why people feel they should be allowed to smoke it. Doing stuff like Coke or Meth, of course that's illegal and people who do it are stupid. I agree with what you've said about people who think they should be above the law and walk around downtown smokin weed, obviously they know it's illegal and should respect that, but if somebody's smokin some pot in his backyard with noone around and the cops roll by, see it, and come arrest him, that's kind of stupid. There's nothing wrong with that aside from the fact that people say there's something wrong with it.


Yes I worship them because of what they do, is that wrong? I show support for law enforcement I dont see you going out and taking a bullet for complete strangers.

I've talked with cops, I took Law Enforcement classes where the teachers were cops. They said that the number one rule is you have to go home to your family at night. Cops don't dive in front of guns to save somebody they don't know. Typically they hide behind their car, or the side of a building, or something. Besides, how often does a gunfight break out?

[Jaykub]

Out of... 1.5 million officers in the united states your going to state that, I would say out of those who smoke pot in law enforcement they take up .1% if that. Yes I worship them because of what they do, is that wrong? I show support for law enforcement I dont see you going out and taking a bullet for complete strangers.

Ya, doing drugs is stupid, there is no justification for it, If your stupid enough to carry drugs on you and you get caught by law enforcement that is stupidity if you smoke pot and argue it should be legal only for the justification of I dont want to get busted by the cops anymore thats stupid.

You might call it the stupidest thing you've ever heard but if your stupid enough to do drugs because you believe you have a had life or just want to relax and what not is just plain stupidity.

Have I broken the law yes I have when I was younger was I stupid back then yes, but I learned from my mistakes, some people cant learn IE smoking pot, so they are a stupid criminal.

All I'm saying is many great elected officials and government workers have done drugs and it doesn't make them bad people.

[Muffincat]

I dont see you going out and taking a bullet for complete strangers. .

I don't see 99% of the police force ever doing this, either.

[Diligence109]

Out of... 1.5 million officers in the united states your going to state that, I would say out of those who smoke pot in law enforcement they take up .1% if that. Yes I worship them because of what they do, is that wrong? I show support for law enforcement I dont see you going out and taking a bullet for complete strangers.

I sincerely doubt the figure for officers that smoke is that low. That or Ithaca, NY, is an incredible anomaly from the rest of the nation. You seem to be pulling that figure out of nowhere, I'm actually curious now if anyone can find an actual statistic... would actually be interesting.



Ya, doing drugs is stupid, there is no justification for it, If your stupid enough to carry drugs on you and you get caught by law enforcement that is stupidity if you smoke pot and argue it should be legal only for the justification of I dont want to get busted by the cops anymore thats stupid.

There are many (in my opinion, rather valid) arguments for the legalization of marijuana. It seems petty of you to assume that everyone's reasoning is simple, selfish, and close-minded.



You might call it the stupidest thing you've ever heard but if your stupid enough to do drugs because you believe you have a had life or just want to relax and what not is just plain stupidity.

Have I broken the law yes I have when I was younger was I stupid back then yes, but I learned from my mistakes, some people cant learn IE smoking pot, so they are a stupid criminal.


Why is it plain stupidity? I don't understand the basis to your argument and you seem to be simply repeating this point over and over again in your posts. I'm not sure what you're implying is stupid about drugs but, at least in the case of marijuana, marijuana is just about as dangerous to the user as alcohol is.

[EpsilonX]

I'm not sure what you're implying is stupid about drugs but, at least in the case of marijuana, marijuana is just about as dangerous to the user as alcohol is.

it's far less.

[Jokersvirus]

The thing is though, smoking pot isn't harmful for you in any way, thus why people feel they should be allowed to smoke it. Doing stuff like Coke or Meth, of course that's illegal and people who do it are stupid. I agree with what you've said about people who think they should be above the law and walk around downtown smokin weed, obviously they know it's illegal and should respect that, but if somebody's smokin some pot in his backyard with noone around and the cops roll by, see it, and come arrest him, that's kind of stupid. There's nothing wrong with that aside from the fact that people say there's something wrong with it.



I've talked with cops, I took Law Enforcement classes where the teachers were cops. They said that the number one rule is you have to go home to your family at night. Cops don't dive in front of guns to save somebody they don't know. Typically they hide behind their car, or the side of a building, or something. Besides, how often does a gunfight break out?

According to the DEA weed is harmful, If people are stupid enough to take any drug for any reason beyond medical they need to be arrested stupidity breeds stupidity and the line has to been drawn somewhere.

Ive graduated with a degree in law enforcement, yes going home at the end of the night is number 1, cops dont dive in front of guns but they will if they have to go save a life, its their career to do that. Alot of officers have given their lives to protect others.

[EpsilonX]

According to the DEA weed is harmful, If people are stupid enough to take any drug for any reason beyond medical they need to be arrested stupidity breeds stupidity and the line has to been drawn somewhere.

Ive graduated with a degree in law enforcement, yes going home at the end of the night is number 1, cops dont dive in front of guns but they will if they have to go save a life, its their career to do that. Alot of officers have given their lives to protect others. How often does a gun fight break out? Gunfights arent the only thing that cause stress in law enforcement, dead babies, dead bodies, blood, guts, gore, the unknown fear of walking to a vehicle after you pulled it over for a traffic violation, the unknown of getting to a situation when you receive an officer down call. Many things cause stress, and thats what im assuming your question of "How often does a gunfight break out" is related to the stress aspect.

Gunfights arent the only thing that cause stress in this field.


I never said anything about stress. A cop will typically only take a bullet if one is being shot. and most of the time, guns are being shot at cops in gunfights


LOLOL UNLESS DEAD BABIES SUDDENLY STARTED SHOOTING AT COPS. DURRHURR

[Jokersvirus]

[QUOTE]I sincerely doubt the figure for officers that smoke is that low. That or Ithaca, NY, is an incredible anomale from the rest of the nation. You seem to be pulling that figure out of nowhere, I'm actually curious now if anyone can find an actual statistic... would actually be interesting.

Ya it is that low, unless your city holds a majority of the officers in the US, which I highly doubt. People will play down police officers at any chance they get because its a simple way to just say "Oh they did so i can do it to"







There are many (in my opinion, rather valid) arguments for the legalization of marijuana. It seems petty of you to assume that everyone's reasoning is simple, selfish, and close-minded.

Ok, what are these reasons? I would love to hear how making weed legal beyond a cash cow benefits the public in general.






Why is it plain stupidity? I don't understand the basis to your argument and you seem to be simply repeating this point over and over again in your posts. I'm not sure what you're implying is stupid about drugs but, at least in the case of marijuana, marijuana is just about as dangerous to the user as alcohol is.

My point is why do them if you have no medical reason to do any drugs. They are illegal for a reason and if the law makers are wrong fight it dont complain about it.

[EpsilonX]

My point is why do them if you have no medical reason to do any drugs. They are illegal for a reason and if the law makers are wrong fight it dont complain about it.

Okay mr know all, what is the reason that marijuana is illegal?

[Jokersvirus]

Okay mr know all, what is the reason that marijuana is illegal?

Exposing the Myth of Smoked Medical Marijuana (http://www.justice.gov/dea/ongoing/marijuana.html)


aww you have to do some reading... Enjoy it smartmouth :)

[EpsilonX]

I read that...most of it seemed pretty stupid.

I'll prove it wrong. Go ask anybody if weed is addictive at all. ANYBODY. They'll say no.

[Jokersvirus]

Wait, so its wrong to get a government website as a means to support my argument as to why its bad?

Thats kinda funny, god forbid they do research instead of just typing what they want about it, we cant expect our government to be responsibility enough to research anything to help the public.

I love how this thread regarding help support law enforcement goes to drug related.. Kinda funny too.

[EpsilonX]

Wait, so its wrong to get a government website as a means to support my argument as to why its bad?

Thats kinda funny, god forbid they do research and just type what they want about it, we cant expect our government to be responsibility enough to research anything to help the public.

Find some sources that aren't biased. Go ask some longtime marijuana smokers what's happened to them.

[Jokersvirus]

Your talking about not being biased long time weed smokers will be bias in their answers.

[EpsilonX]

Your talking about not being biased long time weed smokers will be bias in their answers.

Everyone will be biased, but get a bunch of weed smokers together, and see if they're healthy or not. I'm sure actual proof like that would be better than the government telling you. In all honesty, that link you gave me is the first time I have ever, EVER, been told that marijuana is harmful in any way.

However, this is not a topic I care about particularily...I just thought some of your claims were ridiculous and has to offer my input. I'm not actually very knowledgeable on this subject and don't want to be arguing about something i dont know much about... So....i'm leaving this topic, i guess you could say.

[Dess]

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