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Draelthalas
08-18-2011, 03:07 PM
I read an article about it and it seemed interesting. but i diddnt catch a release date....so i was wondering if its out already?

mutilations
08-18-2011, 03:10 PM
Yes. It's out for XBL and cost under 20$. It's worth the buy and a great game. I've beat it once and will be working on the challenges soon.

Edit:
I'm not sure but I don't think it's out for PSN yet.

Synge
08-18-2011, 03:17 PM
It's out on PC and Xbox, won't be on PS3 until later.

from dust reviews and news at GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?qs=from+dust&tag=masthead%3Bsearch)

Draelthalas
08-18-2011, 03:18 PM
I see. Thanks. Im gonna have to look up the release date for PS3 then.

Alright i looked it up and found a website that said we have 42 days until it comes out on PS3.....not sure if the websites sound but thats what i found.

mutilations
08-18-2011, 03:23 PM
I see. Thanks. Im gonna have to look up the release date for PS3 then.

Alright i looked it up and found a website that said we have 42 days until it comes out on PS3.....not sure if the websites sound but thats what i found.

I'm more than sure it'll be out before the holidays and I would guess it'll be around October. It wouldn't be a good move to release the game during holiday sales anyways.

Draelthalas
08-18-2011, 04:42 PM
I'm more than sure it'll be out before the holidays and I would guess it'll be around October. It wouldn't be a good move to release the game during holiday sales anyways. Alright thats cool cause my B-days in october. Thanks.

Jayhmmz
08-18-2011, 05:03 PM
I bought From Dust yesterday, when it was released for PC on Steam, and I am disappointed.

The idea for the game is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but the controls are awful and the visuals are less than impressive. Just another ****ty, lack-of-effort console port.

Congratulations Ubisoft on being complete knobheads. You would think that with the game being delayed for the PC release that they would at least make it look half decent? I have to play the game windowed just so that I can get it to look a bit better. URGH.

mutilations
08-18-2011, 05:09 PM
I bought From Dust yesterday, when it was released for PC on Steam, and I am disappointed.

The idea for the game is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but the controls are awful and the visuals are less than impressive. Just another ****ty, lack-of-effort console port.

Congratulations Ubisoft on being complete knobheads. You would think that with the game being delayed for the PC release that they would at least make it look half decent? I have to play the game windowed just so that I can get it to look a bit better. URGH.

Really? It has flaws, sure, your little tribesmen can get caught on the terrain and might actually take the long way around and get themselves killed but that doesn't make it a half-assed game release. Do you see the physics they used for nature? It's amazing. It's a great step in the right direction for unique strategy games. I agree that a lot of console ports do seem to be just thrown out there for a quick buck but what I see with From Dust is they actually went with an idea that was more original than the 50 million generic games that are being released as just "download-only" games like a lot of the Mobile App games..

Jayhmmz
08-18-2011, 05:33 PM
Really? It has flaws, sure, your little tribesmen can get caught on the terrain and might actually take the long way around and get themselves killed but that doesn't make it a half-assed game release. Do you see the physics they used for nature? It's amazing. It's a great step in the right direction for unique strategy games. I agree that a lot of console ports do seem to be just thrown out there for a quick buck but what I see with From Dust is they actually went with an idea that was more original than the 50 million generic games that are being released as just "download-only" games like a lot of the Mobile App games..

I didn't bad mouth any of those points that you brought up, and I don't know why you thought I did. I said the controls were gash, and the visuals were awful. If you read what I put, you would notice that I praised the idea of the game, I said it was "fantastic."

The sole source of my disappointment is from the lack of visual quality, because I expect more from a PC game, arcade or not. Another source is the fact that it is obviously just a simple port, with no effort to specialise it for PC whatsoever. It's annoying.

Conclusion: Great idea but cosmetically horrible, minus the nice water effects... but that's about it. Textures suck and there's a lack of anti-aliasing if you don't play the game windowed.

mutilations
08-18-2011, 05:55 PM
I wasn't arguing your point, I guess it was wrong to really quote everything you said. Though, I will say I don't know what is expected of PC-games graphically. Draelthalas seemed interested in the PS3 version of the game so I guess console gaming standards might be a bit lower but the graphics aren't really all that bad, at least for what it does. I really don't think the game was trying to stand out that visually but I could be wrong. I wanted to state my pros and cons of it as well, as stated in my previous post, not just argue your point because it's still a pretty valid point, especially for the PC-version. I'm giving mine based off the Xbox 360 version which I'm assuming will probably not look as good as the PS3 version.

I'm not a looker, I'm a player so it doesn't have to be too pleasing to my eyes in order for me to enjoy it. That's just how I am and does not mean that everyone should be like that. I'm helping Draelthalas make a decision on if this game is worth the purchase or not and I still think getting it on one of the consoles is a good idea. ^^

Exentenzed
08-18-2011, 06:08 PM
Bought it for Xbox the day it came out, completed it twice and often put it on in the background as a nice screensaver.

Also alot of fun to just screw around on the last map for hours and see how the nature simulation changes the map.

Well worth the 20$ on Xbox.

Jayhmmz
08-18-2011, 06:15 PM
I wasn't arguing your point, I guess it was wrong to really quote everything you said. Though, I will say I don't know what is expected of PC-games graphically. Draelthalas seemed interested in the PS3 version of the game so I guess console gaming standards might be a bit lower but the graphics aren't really all that bad, at least for what it does. I really don't think the game was trying to stand out that visually but I could be wrong. I wanted to state my pros and cons of it as well, as stated in my previous post, not just argue your point because it's still a pretty valid point, especially for the PC-version. I'm giving mine based off the Xbox 360 version which I'm assuming will probably not look as good as the PS3 version.

I'm not a looker, I'm a player so it doesn't have to be too pleasing to my eyes in order for me to enjoy it. That's just how I am and does not mean that everyone should be like that. I'm helping Draelthalas make a decision on if this game is worth the purchase or not and I still think getting it on one of the consoles is a good idea. ^^

I'm a massive graphics snob, because my PC is a beast and I demand new games to match up to my system specs, but not a lot of games deliver :P

Don't get me wrong, the game looks great for consoles, but just not for PC, as it is very low-res in terms of textures and what not.

Draelthalas
08-18-2011, 09:29 PM
Yeah it looked pretty interesting my dad had Black and White a long time ago but i never got to try it and this is the only other game ive seen where your a god controlling civilization and what not. if its only 20 bucks i plan on buying it. and graphics arent a big issue for me unless there as bad as like....the original doom. and not all games are made special with extras just because its on pc. other than the fact that most if not all you can go into the script and change things extremely easy.

mutilations
08-18-2011, 09:37 PM
Yeah it looked pretty interesting my dad had Black and White a long time ago but i never got to try it and this is the only other game ive seen where your a god controlling civilization and what not.

Most reviews you will read, or at least the ones I have, have said this game is to not be compared to Black&White simply because you are a god controlling nature and not your civilization. True, I thought that at the beginning just by seeing the previews but that is definitely not the case here. Oh, and Black&White 2 is a great game, just not like From Dust.

Draelthalas
08-18-2011, 09:58 PM
Most reviews you will read, or at least the ones I have, have said this game is to not be compared to Black&White simply because you are a god controlling nature and not your civilization. True, I thought that at the beginning just by seeing the previews but that is definitely not the case here. Oh, and Black&White 2 is a great game, just not like From Dust.

I see. Well i diddnt have much of a reference point anyway cause i never played Black and White and it was a long time ago so i dont remember watching my dad play it i just know that its pretty unique and seems pretty freaking itneresting

Exentenzed
08-18-2011, 11:15 PM
I've played god games since populus.

So i have played most of them. And let me just add in here that From dust is unique. Fortunately, most companies that have tried to go into the god game genre have succeded. Atleast in my oppinion.

mutilations
08-19-2011, 12:45 AM
I've played god games since populus.

For the SNES? Wasn't that a great game. lol I've got it in my little black box that holds my older games.

Exentenzed
08-19-2011, 12:49 AM
Amiga actually. :)

Fond memories of that, my dad gave it to me when i started getting interested in games.

I'll always remember it because he pointed out that the game is as old as i am. :D

Shooter99
09-12-2011, 05:18 AM
I played it on the PC and I can't complain. It's visuals aren't that bad, and the gameplay's fine. What I didn't like about it though, was the repetitive gameplay, and the somewhat bad AI. It had other small flaws, but overall, it's a pretty good game.

Jayhmmz
09-12-2011, 05:35 AM
I played it on the PC and I can't complain. It's visuals aren't that bad, and the gameplay's fine. What I didn't like about it though, was the repetitive gameplay, and the somewhat bad AI. It had other small flaws, but overall, it's a pretty good game.

"Aren't that bad" and "fine" isn't good enough.

After I purchased From Dust from Steam, I immediately asked for a refund. The visuals were shoddy and the controls were disgusting unless you were using a 360 pad for Microsoft Windows.

It's just another vile console port.

Shooter99
09-12-2011, 09:20 AM
"Aren't that bad" and "fine" isn't good enough.

After I purchased From Dust from Steam, I immediately asked for a refund. The visuals were shoddy and the controls were disgusting unless you were using a 360 pad for Microsoft Windows.

It's just another vile console port.

If you've read my old posts, you'd know that I only use k/m - because it's one of the benefits of being a PC gamer. I don't see the point in hating games for their graphics. It's just another port - big deal. There are plenty of ports nowadays, and From Dust is no different. I didn't finish the game because I found it boring and repetitive after a while, but the graphics didn't seem to bother me. Maybe it's just my extreme tolerance towards games with bad visuals, but I don't see what the big deal is.

Jayhmmz
09-12-2011, 10:20 AM
If you've read my old posts, you'd know that I only use k/m - because it's one of the benefits of being a PC gamer. I don't see the point in hating games for their graphics. It's just another port - big deal. There are plenty of ports nowadays, and From Dust is no different. I didn't finish the game because I found it boring and repetitive after a while, but the graphics didn't seem to bother me. Maybe it's just my extreme tolerance towards games with bad visuals, but I don't see what the big deal is.

I didn't say that you were using a 360 pad, I was making a general statement that had no relation to the hardware that you may or may not use. I was backing up my argument that From Dust is a really bad console port.

You are right, there are plenty of ports, but not all ports are as bad as From Dust. A lot of games are created on consoles first these days, but some decent developers always go the extra mile to cover it up and make the PC version worthy of actually being a PC game. The visuals for From Dust are bad. No anti-aliasing unless the game is windowed, as well as the texture resolution being horrendous. I should not need to compromise and window my game to make it look a little bit better. Not even windowing the game can rescue it though.

Tolerance and expectancy are two different things in this situation. I expect games to look like it's the year 2011, and I expect PC games to look like they should do on the PC. From Dust fails in those two areas, as well as it failing with the controls. It is unacceptable.

I don't have a clue why people can just idly sit back and accept developers lazy work when they could have give you so much better for your money.

Shooter99
09-13-2011, 06:50 AM
I didn't say that you were using a 360 pad, I was making a general statement that had no relation to the hardware that you may or may not use. I was backing up my argument that From Dust is a really bad console port.

You are right, there are plenty of ports, but not all ports are as bad as From Dust. A lot of games are created on consoles first these days, but some decent developers always go the extra mile to cover it up and make the PC version worthy of actually being a PC game. The visuals for From Dust are bad. No anti-aliasing unless the game is windowed, as well as the texture resolution being horrendous. I should not need to compromise and window my game to make it look a little bit better. Not even windowing the game can rescue it though.

Tolerance and expectancy are two different things in this situation. I expect games to look like it's the year 2011, and I expect PC games to look like they should do on the PC. From Dust fails in those two areas, as well as it failing with the controls. It is unacceptable.

I don't have a clue why people can just idly sit back and accept developers lazy work when they could have give you so much better for your money.

It looks like a 2011 game to me. I really like the water physics and the way the environment slowly changes from a dry desert to a tropical paradise is just amazing. The cut scenes, the people, and the close-up view of the landscape looked very bad though.
The controls were laggy and kinda annoying, but it's not an fps, and it doesn't require speed, so it's not that bad.
The developers see more profit in consoles, and that's why they don't pay as much attention to making the PC releases. Besides, it's better to have a ported game, than no game at all. I still hate the way Treyarch completely ignored the PC, and made COD 3 a console exclusive game. I feel the same way about BC, Allan Wake, Halo etc...
Ubisoft were kind enough to at least port the game onto the PC.

Jayhmmz
09-13-2011, 06:57 AM
It looks like a 2011 game to me. I really like the water physics and the way the environment slowly changes from a dry desert to a tropical paradise is just amazing. The cut scenes, the people, and the close-up view of the landscape looked very bad though.
The controls were laggy and kinda annoying, but it's not an fps, and it doesn't require speed, so it's not that bad.
The developers see more profit in consoles, and that's why they don't pay as much attention to making the PC releases. Besides, it's better to have a ported game, than no game at all. I still hate the way Treyarch completely ignored the PC, and made COD 3 a console exclusive game. I feel the same way about BC, Allan Wake, Halo etc...
Ubisoft were kind enough to at least port the game onto the PC.

I just don't think it looks like a 2011 game, at all. The physics are really good, I do agree with you there, but the PC effort is so lazy, and it's a pile of wank.

The console version looks great, for consoles, sure. But I'm angry because I chose to get it on PC over console because I was certain that Ubisoft Montpellier would actually put some effort into their work. Why should I have to compromise and get it on console? It's disgusting that they can get away with it. I'm not the only one raging about it either, there are thousands of others sharing the same opinions as me.

I'm not burning you or anything, put it's people like you who make Ubisoft feel that they can get away with releasing such an unpolished game. More people need to challenge the average work of developers so that they know that what they're producing just isn't good enough for the standard of the platform.

I don't want a game on PC that is just "OK." I want a game that uses each platform to its full potential, if not close to it. It's just unacceptable when crap like this is distributed.

Shooter99
09-14-2011, 05:03 AM
I just don't think it looks like a 2011 game, at all. The physics are really good, I do agree with you there, but the PC effort is so lazy, and it's a pile of wank.

The console version looks great, for consoles, sure. But I'm angry because I chose to get it on PC over console because I was certain that Ubisoft Montpellier would actually put some effort into their work. Why should I have to compromise and get it on console? It's disgusting that they can get away with it. I'm not the only one raging about it either, there are thousands of others sharing the same opinions as me.

I'm not burning you or anything, put it's people like you who make Ubisoft feel that they can get away with releasing such an unpolished game. More people need to challenge the average work of developers so that they know that what they're producing just isn't good enough for the standard of the platform.

I don't want a game on PC that is just "OK." I want a game that uses each platform to its full potential, if not close to it. It's just unacceptable when crap like this is distributed.

Sending letters and hating their games won't change much either. PC gamers are "dying out", and this is the age of the consoles. As I already said, it is much better to have a ported game, than no game at all. Besides, I didn't buy the game, so I don't feel ripped-off at all.
When I come to think of it, it is kind of a letdown, because Ubisoft used to be good towards their PC releases - well, up to a certain point they were.
But still, I would prefer to have a ported BC, COD3 and Halo, rather than buying a console just to play these three games. I personally think that the PC is the best gaming platform but unfortunately, it is also the least popular one. They don't see much profit in PC gamers, and being angry about it won't change anything. I don't see the point in wasting time telling Ubisoft something they already know, and get no results at all. It's just a bad port, big deal. And I stick to what I said: I prefer to have a bad port, rather than buying a console in order to play some console-exclusive games.

Jayhmmz
09-14-2011, 08:10 AM
It's just a bad port, big deal.

I spent money on that bad port, as well as thousands of others. It is a big deal. They have profited from releasing a ****ing **** game. I would love to take a baseball bat to their developer's systems in the Montpellier office, because they are no use to the staff at all if they're going to sit around on their arses all day just clicking a few buttons and porting the console version over without polishing it. Lazy ****s.

Also, PC gaming isn't dying out. There are so many things still keeping the PC gaming industry alive. There are still a good amount of PC-only games that have already been released, and ones that are in the process of being released. This especially applies to MMORPG games, and we all know how popular they are. Guaranteed that games like WoW are more popular than any console game out there at the moment. Arguably, Call of Duty is less popular on console, than WoW is on the PC.

A lot of the developers love the PC platform, because it allows them to stretch their engines to the limit. Take EA DICE for example. DICE are revelling in the fact that they can get so much more out of their Frostbite engine than they can get from the consoles. It shows, too, because the game looks astonishingly good.

Shooter99
09-26-2011, 02:07 PM
I spent money on that bad port, as well as thousands of others. It is a big deal. They have profited from releasing a ****ing **** game. I would love to take a baseball bat to their developer's systems in the Montpellier office, because they are no use to the staff at all if they're going to sit around on their arses all day just clicking a few buttons and porting the console version over without polishing it. Lazy ****s.

Also, PC gaming isn't dying out. There are so many things still keeping the PC gaming industry alive. There are still a good amount of PC-only games that have already been released, and ones that are in the process of being released. This especially applies to MMORPG games, and we all know how popular they are. Guaranteed that games like WoW are more popular than any console game out there at the moment. Arguably, Call of Duty is less popular on console, than WoW is on the PC.

A lot of the developers love the PC platform, because it allows them to stretch their engines to the limit. Take EA DICE for example. DICE are revelling in the fact that they can get so much more out of their Frostbite engine than they can get from the consoles. It shows, too, because the game looks astonishingly good.

If MMORPGs become the only PC games out there, PC gaming is as good as dead to me - because I hate MMORPGs (including WoW). I am aware about the WoW fans, but that doesn't change the fact that the PC is becoming less popular. Young gamers are console gamers, and WoW will eventually get old and many people will stop playing it.
Also, EA/Dice betrayed PC gamers by making BC a console-exclusive. Even though Battlefield 3 looks amazing, it is stupid of them not to release BC on the PC - at least its campaign. If they were more like Ubisoft (this goes for Treyarch too) they would have ported the game and sell it as an expansion or something. I hate console exclusive games (especially when they're fps), and I am much more satisfied with bad ports, than no games at all.
If you feel bad about spending money on it, thinking that Ubisoft ripped you off, than don't buy their games, or even better, return the favor by pirating them. - Note: Destroying their systems with a baseball bat is far more illegal than downloading games for free :p



ps: I didn't write eariler because of internet connection problems. Sorry for that.
pps: I traded A2OA for From Dust, so I actually got the better game. :D

Jayhmmz
09-27-2011, 09:16 AM
If you feel bad about spending money on it, thinking that Ubisoft ripped you off, than don't buy their games, or even better, return the favor by pirating them. - Note: Destroying their systems with a baseball bat is far more illegal than downloading games for free :p

Not a bad idea at all... :D

EA DICE did eventually bring a BC game out for the PC, in the form of BC2, but I still don't understand why they felt the need to not release the original BC for PC.