Anti "campers" make me angry!

[egg-whites333]

Today like most days I play a fps i got yelled at because I "camped" what is with this. I play a game the smart way and stay in the same spot for 2 or so kills and i get called a camper and muted and everything by everyone. i dont get the point of doing that its a smart strategy and I should not be kicked and stuff because I played smart. What do you think of "camping" is it okay or completely wrong and you should be banned from video games if you do it.

[LemonRising]

I don't know why some people make such a big deal out of it lol
As far as I'm concerned camping is apart of fps.

[egg-whites333]

I don't know why some people make such a big deal out of it lol
As far as I'm concerned camping is apart of fps.


yep its much better than running around like a headless chicken trying to shoot people that are either being smart and waiting or also running around like a headless chicken.:p

[Dess]

I hate it. Primarily for Spawn Campers. You don't even give people a chance to move before they're dead.

[Exentenzed]

In my oppinion there are situations where camping is completely legitimate and others where it is unacceptable.

Some examples when camping is allowed:

1. Your team holds 2 out of 3 conquest locations, you know that if your team try to go for the third, you would be streched out to thin and therefore your team digs in on the conquest location closest to the frontline and holds it's ground while snipers take up overwatch positions to cover both of the locations you hold to help out the dug in teammates and to take out anyone trying to get behind your lines to take the other conquest point. the entire team could be camping at this point with the exception of some appointed reconassaince soldiers feeding the dug in troops where to expect the next assault.

2. Deathmatches, both team and solo. Camping has both benefits and negatives and should therefore be completely legitimate.
The benefits are of course beeing able to ambush your enemy, but after 1-2 succesful ambushes your location should be compromized. Campers are easily defeated if your team utilizes the most basic teamplay rule, communication.

So what if you are hiding in a small hallway waiting for someone to run by, their fault if they get killed. Simply tell them that if they hate campers so much they should learn to check their corners. Besides, running headless into a unsecure hallway is realy dumb anyway.
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Of course if you notices that your team needs all the people it can get to push forward to either capture a point or fortify a natural chokepoint, one shouldnt be camping. If you have the slightest doubt in that you are camping at a good location and time, then don't. get out there and help your teammates.


I hate it. Primarily for Spawn Campers. You don't even give people a chance to move before they're dead.

Yea, spawn campers are realy annoying. Yes it's a good tactic to win, but the fact is that when you are gaming online, you are more or less participating in a competetive sport and as such not giving the opposing team a chance is very unsportlike.

But it should be mentioned that games should be designed to make spawn camping impossible. Like some allready have been.

[LiNuX]

I hate it. Primarily for Spawn Campers. You don't even give people a chance to move before they're dead.

This is probably the only time I think it's unacceptable. I never saw the fun in that.

But if you're playing a game and you find yourself a roof or high point where you want to camp and snipe, then go ahead. Just leave the spawn alone!

[egg-whites333]

i completely agree with no spawn killing but there is a big difference one i do and the other i would never do. but staying in a tactical position for 2 to 3 kills i think is perfectly fine.

[ROFLBRYCE]

I think camping a hallway with an SMG or a shotgun is not fun, and it's just annoying really. Yeah it gets kills, but it aggravates me.

Sniping from ANYWHERE with a sniper to camp, legit for me. Anyone complains about it is stupid. You don't see snipers running around in the war, they're staying still too. And like Exentenzed said too, camping to control a map is alright too, as long as it's not the spawns.

[Psychotray]

I think its alright to camp, especially if your a Sniper, I don't know why so many people are b*tching about it, its ridiculous -___________-

[paecmaker]

Like most people Im pretty relaxed against camping, its a part of the game. The only camping I hate is spawn camping for obvious reasons. If you hate campers you should learn how to play against them, try to go another path or use flashbangs or smoke and advance in cover.

[Slay]

I voted for the bottom one, because it was funny.
It is highly okay.
If you had a sniper, would you be jumping up and down like on halo, or stand still and shoot someone, a scopes movement is huge. :/

[Jayhmmz]

What game is it that you're being called a camper on? Call of Duty? It would be understandable if you did. As you said, because a lot of people play like low skills on that game and run around with stupid weapons expecting to get high scores, they will rage at whoever is playing the game properly and stopping them from being an idiot. :)

Battlefield games are the best, because no-one gets called a camper, as it's all tactical. The only times people rage on Battlefield is when someone teamkills purposely or if someone is spawn killing.

[paecmaker]

What game is it that you're being called a camper on? Call of Duty? It would be understandable if you did. As you said, because a lot of people play like low skills on that game and run around with stupid weapons expecting to get high scores, they will rage at whoever is playing the game properly and stopping them from being an idiot. :)

Battlefield games are the best, because no-one gets called a camper, as it's all tactical. The only times people rage on Battlefield is when someone teamkills purposely or if someone is spawn killing.

I thought about it, if it was to cod standards almost everyone would be called campers in bc 2 just because the battles are often set in longer distances.

[Mizel]

99% of the time I have no problem with people camping (does start to get frustrating when you cant even spawn for 2 secs without being killed, but whatev). Def part of the game, and the only time people complain about camping- is when they're being camped >_<

[paecmaker]

The camping I do hate is the rocket camping (Carl gusaf camping) in bc2, the weapons are made to destroy vehicles but also one hit everyone so people always use them against humans. Other thing that many hate are the 40mm nade launcher (more commonly named as n00btube) but they are a part of the game and made to attack humans.

[norid]

@Jayhmmz
I was totally thinking that then I read your post and was like oh he stole my idea. But I agree. Modern Warfare lacks skill campers all they do is sit, claymore, boom, scavenge, repeat. I hate that game now. Battlefield is fun cept for the freaking vehicles at times. But the camping on there is fun cause its easy to pop them from a distant. Plus there's always a artillery strike. MW camping no bueno. Battlefield Si bueno

[Fr0stByte]

theres a big difference between camping and defensive play.... I do the latter often, just defend one particular area of the map. I dont camp and condem those who do, waiting in a hole in the wall for someone to walk past is a wimps way of playing.....to be successful in fps the best tactic is to keep moving

[paecmaker]

theres a big difference between camping and defensive play.... I do the latter often, just defend one particular area of the map. I dont camp and condem those who do, waiting in a hole in the wall for someone to walk past is a wimps way of playing.....to be successful in fps the best tactic is to keep moving

either keep on moving or cover your ass, a sniper without an secured exit is a dead sniper.

[mutilations]

I will admit to using the scavenge/claymore combo in MW2 but I was not a camper, I think holding down a huge area with well-placed claymores is more challenging. If a claymore went off and I didn't see it, I would run to where I had placed other claymores and either attack or scavenge. I got called a camper a lot just because they'd run into the same mine numerous times. -.- But I kept moving at all times unless I know I had pissed of the whole enemy team.

All in all, camping is allowable if it's advantageous without being overwhelmingly unfair. It's not your fault if the person falls for the same trick consistently.

[norid]

I agree camping is allowable and a viable strategy. But can get irritating...

[egg-whites333]

yep cod lol any ps3 players out there play mag i like it because it excepts my style
of play and im an epic squad leader. from what i hear about battlefield mag seems like a slightly less better version. so i may pick up bf3 but im deciding whether mw3 or bf3 because this looks like the best cod in a long time!

[LemonRising]

Agreed with Dmg, while I find camping to be a part of the game.. I much dislike spawn camping.

[MissLEGENDARY]

I think a certain level of "camping" is ok (maybe 2 or 3 kills) but when you spend the entire match in the same place doing the same thing it's kind of annoying.

[Fr0stByte]

I think a certain level of "camping" is ok (maybe 2 or 3 kills) but when you spend the entire match in the same place doing the same thing it's kind of annoying.

no doubt...the best way to play fps I find is to keep moving....so get a couple of kills and move on

[Flow]

My father plays MW2, and he calls camping "Fortifying His Position." My dad likes getting his kill-streaks, and titles and emblems and all that. If its fun for him, then do it. (: I play Xbox to have fun. Sometimes I'll run around and quickscope. because its fun. other times, I'll camp with an M21 silenced, and hardscope the poo out of newbs. Thats usually when I get trash talked to. I Love camping in modes like Hardcore S&D, Because Feeling tactical, and stealthy is fun. other times I'll just rush right down the middle. I play the game for pure fun. and to do good. because I have fun doing good. (:
Thats my say on "Camping."

Also, I hate getting killed by campers. I rage most of the time.
I got that Hypocrite status. :D

[Fr0stByte]

My father plays MW2, and he calls camping "Fortifying His Position." My dad likes getting his kill-streaks, and titles and emblems and all that. If its fun for him, then do it. (: I play Xbox to have fun. Sometimes I'll run around and quickscope. because its fun. other times, I'll camp with an M21 silenced, and hardscope the poo out of newbs. Thats usually when I get trash talked to. I Love camping in modes like Hardcore S&D, Because Feeling tactical, and stealthy is fun. other times I'll just rush right down the middle. I play the game for pure fun. and to do good. because I have fun doing good. (:
Thats my say on "Camping."

Also, I hate getting killed by campers. I rage most of the time.
I got that Hypocrite status. :D

camping is staying in one place for a long time with claymores surrounding you.....by fortifying his postion im sure your dad means defensive play..which is completely different

[Flow]

Every map, he has a certain spot to hang out in. he uses Scavenger, Stopping power, and usually ninja. (all pro) with an RPD, equiped with FMJ. He'll stand behind something and just ADS until someone pops up. he'll die ever like 12 kills. Its very effective, But I usually don't have the patience to sit that long. haha. I'm the UMP45 Rusher noob usually. (:

[Fr0stByte]

^then hes a camper...defensive play is holding down one area of the map and guarding it with your life

[EpsilonX]

by camping do you mean standing right by the spawn point with your reticle pointed to where people spawn when they die? or do you mean sitting on top of a hill with a sniper? Because the first one is retarded I agree.

[Fr0stByte]

by camping do you mean standing right by the spawn point with your reticle pointed to where people spawn when they die? or do you mean sitting on top of a hill with a sniper? Because the first one is retarded I agree.

you cant blame it on the people doing it....its the fault of the retarded spawning system hopefully corrected in mw3

[egg-whites333]

i found the spawn system fairly reasonable what i didn't like was nuke town the only place with horrible spawns because its spawn and get shot for games that spawns work differently where you spawn in one place no i do not do that

[Fr0stByte]

^ i was talking about mw2...i dont play BO

[R!nG]

its basically a choice of play... sm people play for the fun of it... sm dont mind sitting around for a kill.. honestly ask yrself.. which is more fun? walking around the map or camping??

[Mizel]

its basically a choice of play... sm people play for the fun of it... sm dont mind sitting around for a kill.. honestly ask yrself.. which is more fun? walking around the map or camping??

All depends what kinda mood Im in lol Sometimes I love just sitting around camping- not often, but occasionally its entertaining :P

[NumberedEyes]

politics ... oh how i hate it but ill give my opinion on camping though its been said previously by a few people , staying in 1 spot say around a corner and killing people that run past not knowing your behind that corner is fine and dandy. if you get killed 2-3 times by someone standing in the same spot then thats more a problem with the person getting killed, learn from your mistakes its part of being human.

killing people as they spawn leaving them no way to protect themself is griefing and somthing i dont agree with, id go as far as to say spawn campers are scum.

[egg-whites333]

^ i was talking about mw2...i dont play BO
oh well i didnt know i dont have mw2 so i dont know much about the spawn system on there

[R!nG]

nah, killing them as soon as they spawn is efficient but not satisfying.... any disagree...?

[EpsilonX]

I think, laying in wait for unsuspecting victims is perfectly fine. However, camping out by the spawn point and killing them before they know whats going on is cheap and stupid.

[egg-whites333]

i argree but if your playing cod and someone spawns near you its kill or be killed not really a choice on the other had the game i play mag has 2 spawn points per team so if you can get in there you just wait and they will spawn which is not fair at all

[Fr0stByte]

Hopefully the spawn system in mw3 will be completely random....not everyone spawning in the same predictable places....then youll see my happy face

http://rob.nu/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/happy-face-zeeleeuw.jpeg

[paecmaker]

Hopefully the spawn system in mw3 will be completely random....not everyone spawning in the same predictable places....then youll see my happy face

http://rob.nu/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/happy-face-zeeleeuw.jpeg

The first pic accually look a little happy.

[R!nG]

A happy face is always welcome... stay away from snipers.. live long.... :D

[dragoblade]

The only time I think camping. Is alright is on game modes like search and destroy. Or when the entire team is vs 1 person.

[Fr0stByte]

The only time I think camping. Is alright is on game modes like search and destroy. Or when the entire team is vs 1 person.

search and destory is more about stealth unless your sniping, then its about vantage. When would a whole team be against one person?

[CraeSC111]

The only problem I have with camping is when you use a grenade launcher to get rid of them you get yelled at for noob tubing :p

[W1CKEDTW1STED]

I don't mind campers... I just make sure to come after you every time in your "hiding" spots. If anything, you make my K/D look great! :p

[Sotanji]

Camping is one thing that bugs me but i do it.

Its a tactic that only works in the same spot for so long, and it works really well because people usually just get pissed and keep rushing toward your position determined to kill you. but they do it blindly with no thought but rage. Camping is very easy (most of the time) to get around if you just think before you run into the enemy.

Spawn camping is a straight out no-no. Yes its fun to do but i only do it when someone on the other team is an absolute asshole.

[CraeSC111]

Eww spawn camping is annoying as heck. I am glad a lot of games are preventing spawn camping. That I would agree should not be allowed.

[Jester]

The ones who get mad about camping are the ones getting killed by the campers. Everyone complains about camping when they're on the wrong side of it, but it's really just a part of the game

[Diefer12]

This is a very nice post. I do think camping should be acceptable. I can understand why it is not. being killed every time you go to the same spot will defenestrate aggravate you, but then again after 1 or 2 you should pick up on the fact that ATM it is a no fly zone ahha. Spawn camping should be automatic kicks, that is really annoying; it takes the fun out of the competition.


Sitting in a spot that gives you an advantage is part of the strategy, the people getting hurt should always look for a way around to get the camper. Do you complain about someone who has the ability to destroy a vehicle?? then why should you complain about someone who has the ability to say at further distance and kill with 1-2 shots? ( i am talking about snipers)

[himynameisandrew]

camping isnt fun, people who dont play games to have fun are lame

[Mizel]

I dunno, imo camping can be prettyyyyy amusing in certain situations :P

[paecmaker]

I dunno, imo camping can be prettyyyyy amusing in certain situations :P

Camping can be fun as long as you dont do that all the time. Camping to long can be pretty boring, atleast if you dont see anyone.

[CraeSC111]

Imagine how much less effective camping would be if you couldn't throw grenades back :p

[Mizel]

Camping can be fun as long as you dont do that all the time. Camping to long can be pretty boring, atleast if you dont see anyone.

Oh, camping for too long def gets boring quickly. But I remember in WoW…. Every once and awhile, just for the hell of it, getting a whole group of Horde and wandering into an ally town and just camping people for a little bit always proved to be amusing :D

[CraeSC111]

I hate spawn camping and on my server the horde is so small that we are dominated in everything PvP

[Mizel]

Awww, that sucks. :/

[iParasiteCJ]

Spawn camping is a no-no.
But the only campers I really get annoyed at are the ones who get in a corner or somewhere like a bush where they stay there the entire game, even after they die and respawn. I mean really, how fun is it just sitting in a corner.. does K.D. matter that much to you or are you just scared to leave the corner? :P lol that's my 2 cents.

[Mizel]

Yes! Because for some people that suck at games, that’s how they make themselves feel better ;)

[iParasiteCJ]

hehe do you sit in the corner with a pistol Mizel? :P

[Mizel]

Screw the corner, Im wayyyy to impatient for that! :P Balls to the wall is how I roll- just run right into the action…. Probably why I die so often…. Damn, I just made myself feel bad xD

[iParasiteCJ]

XD That's how I roll too, which is why my K.D. is like.. 7.8? :/
But search and destroy is teaching me patience.. alot of it. lol
I was so stoked when I got my choppuh last night! :D

[Mizel]

I too am learning the ways of patience.... slowly, but surely.... I still prefer balls to the wall though ;)

[CraeSC111]

In COD I run around and shoot whoever I see. In BF I always work as a team, provide covering fire, healing teammates, giving out ammo. I wish teamwork worked in CoD

[paecmaker]

In cod I run around like an idiot, if I hide in a bush I ALWAYS get sniped.

In BF I go slowly and hide. In bc2 I love team deathmatch and being alone, while the others just fight I creep in from the side and kill them, like a ninja.

In arma 2 I walk slowly keeping my eyes open in case of enemies should get close. Suddenly I see a movement 200 meters infront of me, so I lay down on the ground waiting. When I get clear visuals I shoot and kills him, just then another enemy opens fire 300 meters away from me to my left killing me.

[-Mw3-]

I only camp if I cbf do to anything else lol..

[Noob4Life]

In cod I run around like an idiot, if I hide in a bush I ALWAYS get sniped.

In BF I go slowly and hide. In bc2 I love team deathmatch and being alone, while the others just fight I creep in from the side and kill them, like a ninja.

In arma 2 I walk slowly keeping my eyes open in case of enemies should get close. Suddenly I see a movement 200 meters infront of me, so I lay down on the ground waiting. When I get clear visuals I shoot and kills him, just then another enemy opens fire 300 meters away from me to my left killing me.
In my case, when it comes to COD I NEVER stop moving...EVER. Unless it is when I am kissing the ground >< Hit and run is my tactic...most of the time it works..other times...more ground kissing. :laugh1:

But personally, I don't care if people camp or not...either way my intention is to find the enemy and kill em....I mean, seriously? Usually the one's who are getting ticked off by campers are the ones that are getting killed by em. Granted, I get "grumpy" when I keep getting killed by a camper but it just gets me amped up and ready to go back to the same exact spot to kill em, even if I die 5 times in the process. LOL I say camp away, it just gives me a stationary thing to shoot at. And yes, when you are a sniper...Isn't that camping!?!?! FAIL :P

[paecmaker]

at. And yes, when you are a sniper...Isn't that camping!?!?! FAIL :P


oh, Im not against "normal" camping(only spawn camping)
Its only that when I try to camp I always get camped myself.

[SoleSky]

It really pisses me off when people camp, but I think its okay to camp because, yes its part of the game and its pretty smart to do considering you get kills. The only time camping really pisses me off is when people on my team do it and were playing an objective game and they're just sitting in a corner quick scoping or not doing anything to get to the position or objective. If you're going to play headquarters , CTF, Domination or demolition you shouldn't be camping. It makes for bad teammates, especially when they only pull out 3 or 4 kills a game.

[Noob4Life]

Peacemaker, I agree with you on the spawn camping as well. I honestly think that is a cheap tactic. I mean, give a brotha a chance right!?!?! lol And SoleSky...I totally know how you feel! If it is a deathmatch game or something along that line, sure...do whatever works, but if you are working against the clock and the "camping" does not benefit the team towards their objective then that suxxers.

[SoleSky]

Lol I like guerrilla warfare where you hind in the corner then kill someone then run away. I guess thats kind of annoying but it is beneficial.