This is BS!!!!!!!!!!!(League of Legends)

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Sounds like a near perfect system to me, man. Of course there is the exception of you, but you may be 1 in 100 in this case. I love how Halo has a system like this now, punishing those who rage quit, which is the same as LoL. Unfortunately, in this day in age (with the minimal amount of looking over EVERY disconnection) there is no way to tell if you're rage quitting, you lagged out or you have important duties to attend to, such as yourself.

I kinda wish you could replace people in games like that, but it's hard to fill in an A.I sometimes, with the relatively same skill level as the player. What if you do crap one game, and pro the next? You might be a pro player but goof around too much and have a weak A.I, meaning they played better without you. Wish flaws like this could be fixed because I've experienced the trouble too.

But, I leave you with this, my friend: calm down. It's only a game. It's not the end of the world. Is there really nothing more you can do in the next 24 hours? I've had friends freak out over games like this and...well, you may be better off unplugging the computer and the consoles for a while if a 24 hour ban is this big an issue. And yes, I have been suspended from other games/services (WoW, Xbox Live, Warcraft 3) and man, it's not been a problem. 2 weeks without Xbox turned into 3 months. I dropped WoW 3 weeks ago, and I touched it today for 5 minutes and left. There's a lot more stuff to do in the world than video games man. They're good to sit down and relax with from time to time, but don't let it be all you do for recreation.

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I get it ROFL :) I went cold turkey on WoW many months ago, despite me being horribly addicted to it for the past 6 years. Wasn't a big deal, cause it's just a game.

I was also banned from WoW on multiple occasions, several of which were righteous, I got pissed, but others were not, and those really pissed me off.

My issue isn't as much that I simply got suspended bro, it's the manner of which I was.

If I had verbally attacked multiple people, and I had been reported, charged, and banned for the day. Big deal, I deserved that, and I wouldn't think anymore of it.

HOWEVER!!!

I've done no such thing, and given no red flags to be suspended other than leaving due to life calling me in to do so. It is in no way a near perfect system. I mean, banning ANYONE who leaves a group, just cause it's not allowed? That's the same as if it was illegal to go to the bathroom. 20 people do it, 15 of them do it cause they wanna be rebelious, 5 do it cause they damned well have to, All 20 get arrested.

How, exactly, is that near perfect? It is, by a massive margin, atleast to me, closer to being an imperfect system.

Ban those that deserve it, leave those who don't alone. That's a system, the other is just a slam in the face solution, "Don't wanna deal with sorting them out, just ban them all"

THAT is what upsets me. I know it's just a game, and yes, Ive been banned many times from all sorts of online games for reasons that're perfectly righteous, and I don't question them, but I will not simply accept a suspension just cause I've logged out of their game at a time that they don't agree with.

And it's not that difficult to sort out those who leave due to rage quitting. Just read the damned logs from the chatbox during the game...95% of the time I'm sure there'll be an arguement leading up to a ragequit, ESPECIALLY if both sides can talk with one another!

For example:

Game 1: The game continues uninterrupted by chatting at all, or some few MIA calls and "damn you lol" calls. But otherwise nothing to prove a rage. One guy leaves out of nowhere.

Probably not a rage quitter, just had to go urgently.

Game 2: Same as above, but this guy actually says that he has to go.

Most deffinately not a rage quitter.

Game 3: Same as above, but someone leaves, then returns, then leaves again, and returnes, then leaves and never returns.

Probably not a rage quitter, just having connection issues(Their solution to this problem? Give them some connection tips...LOL!!!)

Game 4: Small little spats and 1 guy has 15 deaths, 0 kills, 0 assists, and has been making nasty comments on all chat, than leaves with a "SCREW THIS!"

Deffinately a rage quitter, ban time.

Game 5: Same as above, but no swearing or arguements.

Could go either way, not a perfect system.


They're way way too easy on the ban trigger. It is simply not fair to those of us who DO NOT rage quit all the time, even if we're the minority.

Take for example, again, WoW.

In WoW they actually are careful with whom they ban for what, and mistakes are quickly fixed, and the GM responsible can be suspended or even fired. They seem to have plenty of money from their store, so I dont doubt that they could afford a small army of GMs who check suspicious fight logs, and if there's nothing to show a rage quit, the log is deleted and on to the next. If a deffinate rage quit is found, charge the person, if he's done it before, ban him.

Even an AI could do that I bet, not sure how though, but I'm sure it's possible.


So I don't think its fair to say that its a perfect system when there're so many easy and cheap ways to make it fair for those who deserve it, instead of just using a nuke and hit everyone who's unlucky enough to not go by what they call standards.

I dont know the behind the scenes action with LoL, however, I would believe that the temp ban system is ran by a computer, because having an employee watch all the games makes no sense, its better for a computer to be cold and calculating.

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get it ROFL I went cold turkey on WoW many months ago, despite me being horribly addicted to it for the past 6 years. Wasn't a big deal, cause it's just a game.

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Than why is this a big deal you understand WoW is a video game whats so hard to understand there are protocols in place to try and stop the rage quitters. If you get banned so be it atleast you get to play another day. The situation with those who leave games and destroy the experience out weights getting banned for a day when you had to take care of your duties as a man. No need to get mad in general.


Again, your example of a bathroom, makes no sense.

I'm pretty sure that you get an email the first time you leave a game on a new account because dili and I made accounts once just to fill up space so we could do something, and they got leaves, and I received an email to that account.

You left three times within a few days and they suspended your account for 24 hours. They are understaffed and I doubt they have people reading the chat logs of every single person who leaves a game. They DO read chat logs of people before they ban them (reports from players and chat logs during games).

Besides, just because you didn't "rage quit" does NOT mean that you leaving didn't hurt your team!

You can get a few leaves once in a while, and nothing will happen to you. However, I am sure that it was a mixture of you

1. being a new player
2. having 3 leaves in ~3 days, when most players have that many leaves in hundreds of games played

I approve of the system they have in place. I don't CARE if you have a good reason to leave; you're hurting your team. It's kind of selfish to be like "well I had GOOD REASONS to leave my team short another person; I shouldn't be penalized for it!" The fact is, you did leave the game. You did hurt your team. It doesn't really matter why, imo, if you do it frequently. Obviously things come up sometimes... but, yeah, I've only had 1 leave in over 100 games and it was due to a connection issue.

I hate when there is a leaver on my team. Your team *WILL* lose a 4v5; it's pretty much guaranteed unless you were totally roflstomping. Why is it fair to them that you can leave them alone without penalty just because you had things come up in your life?

Riot is very light on the ban trigger. They don't ban until someone has hundreds of reports and even then it's usually like only a week (there are several complaints about this on the forums - there are simply more reports than the riot staff can handle).

If something urgent comes up and you have to leave, that's unfortunate. This is, fortunately, not going to happen too often. That's why your account wasn't suspended (not banned, only suspended; and only for 24 hours) until you'd racked up 3 leaves in a close time span. I've got 3 leaves, as I said before, and I've never even received a warning email from Riot.

My roommate has about 18 leaves (he tends to be a bit of a jerk to his team sometimes and try to sneak rounds in when he has class in like 40 minutes). He's gotten these over the same time span I have (with about half as many games played overall, so a much higher ratio of leaves) and he's never received any warning or notice from Riot.

There's quite a bit of leniency in the leaving policy already. Enough, anyway, that you should be fine if your daughter or something else pulls you away from a round once a week unwittingly.

The best way if you got anything waiting is just say that you are afk and wait in your base.

Also if you get disconnected they cant ban you.

You can't expect a computer to know you personally and understand that what you did, you had to do because it was important and not because you "raged" - if computers are able to do that, I'm sure we should fear for our lives.

On the bright side, more than 5 hours seems to be up on that 24 hour ban.

You will get disconnected from the game if you afk for long enough. It can tell that you are idling, and it will kick you and make you reconnect (so that you can't just afk forever and not get a leave).

Okay first of all Muffin, I truely don't give a crap about 4 strangers' gaming experience with me leaving if my child is crying. Maybe someday you'll understand where I'm coming from with that.

Second of all, Joker, if you read my example with the bathroom again MAYBE it'll make some sense. 15 do it for rebilion, 5 do it for neccesity...20 get shot for it...WHAT IS THERE NOT TO UNDERSTAND!?!?!?

Third of all, Linux, if a computer can't do the job right, then it's time to have people do their job. Do you enjoy the automated phone calls where you have to call 15 times over cause it didn't understand what you said and directed you in a completely wrong direction? There're jobs for computers, and they're not, and in LoLs part it is NOT.

Fourth of all, Dili. That makes no sense, cause I left 4 times and got suspended. And what the heck are you talking about when you say that they don't ban until they have hundreds of reports, and that they're light on the ban trigger? Are you saying that I racked up over 100 reports in 4 days and got suspended?

Fifth of all, everyone. How about you see it from my point of view, and don't go trailing off on some long drawn reason for why what I do is wrong and why everything else is right. It's a horrible feeling to be ganged up on by a group of people you think you can relate to, only to be harassed for your own opinions. It has happened multiple times now, and even once I've gotten a 'warning' for unfitting conversations, and even been told that from the goodness of peoples hearts that I have not been getting infractions for, which I'm grateful for, atleast some right decissions were made, cause the rest were pretty damned wrong in my opinion. BUT, as it has been shown time and time again, who the hell gives a **** about my opinion anyway?

I'm an easy going guy most of the time, as my initial thread about myself stated, it takes alot to piss me off, and when I see unfair treatment of ANY kind, be it of animals or prisoners or common people or gamers, doesn't matter, I do get pissed off. Banning people who do not deserve it, is wrong, and, as Dili so nicely stated for me, leaving a guy who's an ahole to his team and racks up 18 leaves, never even gets a warning. HOW the HELL is that worthy of support, while my scenario isn't? There's NO DIFFERENCE between imprisoning a guy for a crime he didn't commit, and ban a guy for something he never did, ESPECIALLY when there're much worse out there than me, AS DILI STATED.

I'm not trying to be mean, in fact I hate to be mean, but this has gone to far. I'm either wrong, rude, or make no sense, to anyone and everyone. Not a single person in this entire thread even TRIES to see where I'm coming from, not in any of the debate threads does even one stop and try to see what I'm trying to say, all they do is spew about how horrible it was of me to prioritize my daughter of 4 complete strangers, or how much of a crime it is that I don't consider the damned Batman movie from the 1980s as comic-y.

So I hate to be blunt, no, actually, I don't really hate it that much. I'm tired of every single time standing by while I get attacked from every direction for my own points of view.

If you decide to infract me or whatever for this, then it'll be yet another bad decission, and support of what I consider VERY unfitting behavior from a forum

A cornered dog will be scared, an encroached upon dog will bite the living **** out of your hand.

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Okay first of all Muffin, I truely don't give a crap about 4 strangers' gaming experience with me leaving if my child is crying. Maybe someday you'll understand where I'm coming from with that.

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Oh for crying out loud... Cut it out allready, we completely understand what you mean. Would have done the same thing.
HOWEVER, in situations like this you could have gone custom game, it dosent penalize you for leaving because you arent in a match with other players, or the players are people that you have on you're friend list.
Just like the other day i was playing 2 matches with Muffin and Dili, i knew i would have to leave soon so i told them and we played 1 and a half custom match before i had to leave.
(They knew i had to leave aswell so they didnt mind when i eventually had to).

Also, You complaining you getting penalized is rather selfish, i mean, just like you dont care about 4 other players gaming experience, Riot dont give a damn about you're IRL situations.

Their job is trying to make good gaming experience for people who actually joins a game with the intention and time to complete a whole match.
And honestly... They are doing a damn fine job on it.

Easy fix: If you don't know if you have the time to complete a whole match. Go custom.