top 10 RPG

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Originally Posted by Saph

Well see take for example Oblivion, lots of nice gear ranging from Iron to Glass, and further, if you install the patches and the expansions, for not to mention fan made stuff!

Compare this to DAO, which has the exact same gear, but with different colors, heck, even the unique stuff still looks like everything else! Take for example the armor which the smith can make for you, regardless of what type you pick, it'll just be the same look as always, but with a different color.

The combat is also very choppy, I mean you spend more time having your character auto navigate his way around friends & foes alike to get to the enemy you targeted for him, he looks like MC Hammer gone haywire!!!

Take Oblivion where you swing your sword, and you either hit or don't hit, or you have your shield to block inc attacks etc. I don't consider a game where 80% is automated, and all you can do is run around, click doors, click abilities/potions, switch characters. Even traveling is automated. You really have most of your game play spoonfed to you wether you like it or not.

And there's the character customization. I agree with you here, it is fairly decent, unlike WoW's horrible "pick yo face, pwease!", if you wanna get a specific look, you can make it, I like that.

But to be honest, I don't think there's much to come after, and with such little freedom, and such automated combat, and with such little navigational possiblities("That right there is the way out, don't like it? Go to Oblivion where every which way is an exit with a different destination!"), I have a hard time being comfortable with calling DAO an RPG.

That's just my 2 cents.

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yea, i hear what you're saying, but....does this mean that you don't consider Final Fantasy or anything like that an RPG?

To be honest I do not know =P I've never played FF at all...So maybe I do..I think? It has just never really caught my eye.

Also...the need for them to make what is it...14 games with the same title? Eh...alittle excessive, it gives me the whole quantity>quality feeling...Not saying that FF is bad or anything, since I've never played a single second of it, I can't give an opinion on that cause I just dont know, but with 14 games+ out right now about it? I Just cant seem to take a game requiring THAT many sequals as seriously as one with 1 or 2.

They aren't really sequels. None of them (except for X-2, which doesn't really count) have any connection to each other; they put the title "Final Fantasy" so you know what to expect/similar designers/etc. Milking the popularity of the title, I suppose, but not drying out the story, since it changes every time ^^

That makes sense! Maybe I should give the latest FF game a try sometime.

Or not? I dont really know, with so many different games, which one of them would you say is the best, and least brutal for FF newbies?

Ahhh, I wouldn't really go for the latest one... definitely not their best. Stunning, graphics wise, but super linear and generally disliked by fans...

Most people like 7 the best, but I feel it's kinda overrated... and it wouldn't be great if you're a graphics snob, since it's pretty old :P I personally love 9, and 8 is very good... Actually, if I had to recommend one for being pretty decent and still modern, I might recommend 10. It's a really solid game with a lot to do and a really good story.

I think I'm gonna go with your personal one and go with 8 or 9, since I'm not a horrible graphics snob(obviously I dont think I could play a game that looks like Pythagoras made it(with his triangular shapes n'such!).

I might give 10 a shot if I like the 8 or 9 one though!

As said FF is completely new to me, maybe its time I did give it a shot, huh?:D

Yea lol. They're basically unrelated RPGs that have similar mechanics. Like how goosebumps is a series of books that are all unrelated but have similar themes, final fantasy is a series of RPGs. They're not open world rpgs though, they're rather plot-focused and linear. (although ff13 gives that word a whole new meaning lol)

Eh as stated everywhere, I'm open to new games any day =) Deffinately gonna give this one a shot now since everyone seems to have alot of good and little bad to say about it!

You might not want to go with me, though, because I know a lot of people who hate both 8 and 9 XD People can get pretty rabid about their favorites :P 7 is a safe bet for sure, and I did really love 10 (though there's some discrepancies there, too...)

It's difficult to find one that everyone agrees on. I like 9 because it's cute and fanciful (but not shallow), and really fun. 8 was more dramatic and had a love story as a bigger part of it. 10 is also very much a love story... I mean, 9 kind of was, too. You can't really have one without a love story, but... XD all of them generally have pretty good story lines, and focus on characters... I'm very much a Final Fantasy fan, though, and love to be immersed in fantasy worlds.

I just simply cannot tolerate a game that claims to be an RPG and than has shallow characters, but it sounds to me like FF prides itself on having a variety to choose from in the games?

I may just have to start from #7 and work my way up to 14 I think, that is, if the game is likeable of course!

But I think the safest bet is to take the lowest mentioned game and then go my way up and pick my favorite from there =P Besides, I love to try new things, and I've had my safe open world RPGs to roam around in for a while.

Despite me hating DAO with a passion for its love for invisible walls, I'm willing to see if FF can put some dignity in the pot where DAO took it all away for me :embarrassed: damn gamestop and their unwillingness to take it back at full price after only 2 days >:D