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  • 11-17-2010, 08:39 PM
    Linx_is_me
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jokersvirus View Post
    Well in this world on this earth, religion's law "god's law" has no meaning. You can live by that code, you can honor the code, you can do many things, but on this planet Man's Law is law.

    And it says what I state. You say killing is wrong yet self defense isnt. Your saying its ok for a man to die in one aspect but its totally wrong for them to die for being guilty of killing 100 people. Which in itself is self defense because the system is protecting everyone humanly possible from this crazy person.

    The use of the right of self-defense as a legal justification for the use of force in times of danger is available in many jurisdictions,

    In times of danger , if a man is in jail or solitude that is not a time of danger . You can not call it self defense to end a mans life who is just sitting in a room .
  • 11-17-2010, 09:09 PM
    Jokersvirus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaykub View Post
    The world has no laws. Its only what one man decided to say it is.

    Not one man, hundreds there isnt just one law maker :P

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by other_are_there View Post
    The use of the right of self-defense as a legal justification for the use of force in times of danger is available in many jurisdictions,

    In times of danger , if a man is in jail or solitude that is not a time of danger . You can not call it self defense to end a mans life who is just sitting in a room .

    Self defense is a legal justification of use of force.

    But according to you the taking of one mans life is wrong, homicide is homicide
  • 11-17-2010, 11:08 PM
    Linx_is_me
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jokersvirus View Post
    Not one man, hundreds there isnt just one law maker :P



    Self defense is a legal justification of use of force.

    But according to you the taking of one mans life is wrong, homicide is
    homicide

    The statement that self defense is legal justification is complete wrong . We has self defense before we had law . and Homocide does not mean MURDER it means a person who kills another person . Get your latin right . Homo - same type . Cide . Kill .... It has nothing to do with murder Directly .
  • 11-17-2010, 11:13 PM
    LiNuX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by other_are_there View Post
    Get your latin right . Homo - same type . Cide . Kill .... It has nothing to do with murder Directly .

    I tried staying away from this thread. But homicide = killing a human being. Murder is just one aspect of it. Manslaughter is another. Criminal Negligence is another. Reckless is another.

    /leaves thread
  • 11-17-2010, 11:21 PM
    Jaykub
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LiNuX View Post
    I tried staying away from this thread. But homicide = killing a human being. Murder is just one aspect of it. Manslaughter is another. Criminal Negligence is another. Reckless is another.

    /leaves thread

    Some people just can't understand that it seems.
  • 11-17-2010, 11:24 PM
    Linx_is_me
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jaykub View Post
    Some people just can't understand that it seems.

    I was trying to get that point across with my post .
  • 11-17-2010, 11:34 PM
    Jokersvirus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by other_are_there View Post
    The statement that self defense is legal justification is complete wrong . We has self defense before we had law . and Homocide does not mean MURDER it means a person who kills another person . Get your latin right . Homo - same type . Cide . Kill .... It has nothing to do with murder Directly .

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by other_are_there View Post
    Please do understand I am not putting my religion on you . Just hoping you may better understand this .
    Definition of murder
    # kill intentionally and with premeditation; "The mafia boss ordered his enemies murdered"
    # mangle: alter so as to make unrecognizable; "The tourists murdered the French language"
    # unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being

    Ya it does. Your definition of murder is right there in bold take out the premeditated and what is that, homicide. Google the definition be my guest you will get "one human being killing another human being."

    murder by your definition, YOUR DEFINITION YOU GAVE, states the killing of a human being by another human being, not person by another person.

    So your also saying self defense is wrong? So if someone is trying to kill me they should be allowed to??
    So my brother who is a police officer shouldnt be allowed to defend himself or others, or the US armed forces shouldnt be allowed to defend themselves with deadly force because why mr other?
  • 11-17-2010, 11:38 PM
    Linx_is_me
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jokersvirus View Post
    Ya it does. Your definition of murder is right there in bold take out the premeditated and what is that, homicide. Google the definition be my guest you will get "one human being killing another human being."

    murder by your definition, YOUR DEFINITION YOU GAVE, states the killing of a human being by another human being, not person by another person.

    So your also saying self defense is wrong? So if someone is trying to kill me they should be allowed to??
    So my brother who is a police officer shouldnt be allowed to defend himself or others, or the US armed forces shouldnt be allowed to defend themselves with deadly force because why mr other?

    ad I never said self defense is wrong I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH KILLInG UNDER SELF defense it is not murder .

    .... What I am saying is MURDER means you did it in cold blood , Killing does not mean necessarily you killed someone in cold blood it can be out of self defense . So no homocide does not mean Murder did you not see the part that says UNLAWFULL killing , that is the dictionary way of saying killing in a way that is not out of self defense .
  • 11-17-2010, 11:44 PM
    Jokersvirus
    Homicide is unlawful killing, but you did say that self defense is completely wrong

    Other, I would suggest to do some research on this subject, I did for 2 years so I know this stuff.

    Murder = homicide, self defense is a needed, and we still need to kill people for committing very sick murders

    /thread
  • 11-17-2010, 11:45 PM
    jango
    Please try and adapt your tones a little bit here. Attempts to demean only really make you look like a drama queen, and provoke counter-reactions.

    Let's not get to the point where we have to close another thread because people can't conduct themselves in mature discourse.

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