• 12-31-2010, 09:08 PM
    EpsilonX
    So, I'm gonna make a list of essential (or at least, highly recommended) RPG's by system. I'll start off with my opinion of RPG's i've played, but people feel free to chime in to make this a better list. Any systems you feel I should add, also chime in.

    Links may or may not contain spoilers in text and/or picture form.
    If you're having trouble deciding whether a game is an RPG or not, THESE THREE VIDEOS might help.
    If you recommend something and I don't immediately add it, don't get offended. I probably just haven't gotten around to it yet.
    This list is based on North American releases.

    NES:
    Final Fantasy
    Final Fantasy II (aka Final Fantasy IV)
    Final Fantasy III (aka) Final Fantasy VI)
    Dragon Warrior (aka Dragon Quest)
    Dragon Warrior II (aka Dragon Quest II)
    Dragon Warrior III (aka Dragon Quest III)
    Dragon Warrior IV (aka Dragon Quest IV)

    SNES:
    Chrono Trigger
    Super Mario RPG
    Earthbound
    Secret of Mana
    Illusion of Gaia

    N64:
    Paper Mario

    Gamecube:
    Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Phantasy Star Online
    Tales of Symphonia

    Wii:
    The Last Story
    Pandora's Tower
    Xenoblade Chronicles

    Gameboy:
    Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
    Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal

    GBA:
    Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
    Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green

    DS:
    Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
    Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver
    Chrono Trigger
    The World Ends With You
    Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen
    Dragon Quest V: Hand Of The Heavenly Bride
    Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation
    Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies
    Final Fantasy IV

    3DS:
    Bravely Default
    Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends of the Titan
    Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl
    Fire Emblem Awakening
    Pokemon X and Y
    Shin Megami Tensei IV
    Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers
    Tales of the Abyss

    PS1:
    Chrono Cross
    Dragon Warrior VII
    Final Fantasy VII
    Final Fantasy VIII
    Final Fantasy IX
    Final Fantasy Tactics
    The Legend of Dragoon
    Legend of Mana
    Parasite Eve
    Parasite Eve 2
    Star Ocean: The Second Story
    Wild Arms
    XenoGears

    PS2:
    Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
    Final Fantasy X
    .hack series
    Kingdom Hearts
    Kingdom Hearts 2
    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
    XenoSaga

    PS3:
    Dragon Age: Origins
    Demon's Souls
    Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
    Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
    Fallout 3
    Fallout New Vegas
    Ni No Kuni
    Star Ocean 4
    Tales of Xillia

    PSP:
    Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
    Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
    Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth

    XBOX:
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
    Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2
    Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
    Fable

    360:
    Dragon Age: Origins
    Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
    Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
    Fallout 3
    Fallout New Vegas
    Fable 2
    Fable 3
    Infinite Undiscovery
    Lost Odyssey
    Mass Effect
    Star Ocean 4

    PC
    Baldur's Gate
    Baldur's Gate II
    Diablo
    Diablo 2/Diablo 2: Lords of Destruction
    Dragon Age: Origins
    Fallout
    Fallout 2
    Fallout Tactics
    Fallout 3
    Fallout New Vegas
    Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
    Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

    Games with RPG elements:
    Borderlands (360/PS3)
    Legend of Zelda series (NES/SNES/N64/Gamecube/Wii/GBC/GBA/DS)
    System Shock 2 (PC)

    As you can see, this is far from finished. Just name some suggestions and I'll add them, I want to make a list of RPG's by system that we as a forum think are worth playing.
  • 12-31-2010, 09:22 PM
    Ilyich Valken
    .Hack games for PS2. Assassin's Creed games for either PS3 or 360.
  • 12-31-2010, 09:33 PM
    EpsilonX
    I personally wouldn't consider assassin's creed an RPG by any means, but then again i haven't played it personally (i've watched people play enough to say this) If other people disagree and say it's an RPG, i'll add it.

    i'll add .hack though.
  • 12-31-2010, 09:43 PM
    Ilyich Valken
    Oh. RPGs. Herpderp. Fallout 3/NV (either PS3, Pc, or 360), Fable(s), Infinite Undiscovery.
  • 12-31-2010, 10:10 PM
    Aizen
    NES / SNES :
    Zelda : A Link to the Past

    N64:
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time
  • 12-31-2010, 11:36 PM
    Kenoi
    man, thanks for putting this up, I'm looking forward to newer games to be on this list... I'll actually try some of the ones you mentioned. I STILL gotta try out 'Xenogears' though.
  • 12-31-2010, 11:42 PM
    EpsilonX
    My friend actually got me Xenogears for christmas, I haven't played it yet since i started playing Xenosaga again like a week earlier.
  • 01-01-2011, 10:19 AM
    Ilyich Valken
    |: 360 - Infinite Undiscovery
    PS2 - Kingdom Hearts 1/2 (maybe?)
    PSP - Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
  • 01-01-2011, 01:14 PM
    EpsilonX
    Lol, you're probably the first person i've heard say anything good about infinite undiscovery.
  • 01-01-2011, 01:29 PM
    Ilyich Valken
    I thought it was good. It was a little weird/cliche/annoying at points, but what JRPG isnt? lol
  • 01-01-2011, 06:33 PM
    Muffincat
    It might be nice if you added links to the games (like a wikipedia page or something) for people who are unfamiliar with them, unless you feel like that is too much work for you :P

    A nice list so far; I will have to pick my brain for ones that are missing. Can't think of them right now @_@
  • 01-01-2011, 08:07 PM
    EpsilonX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Muffincat View Post
    It might be nice if you added links to the games (like a wikipedia page or something) for people who are unfamiliar with them, unless you feel like that is too much work for you :P

    A nice list so far; I will have to pick my brain for ones that are missing. Can't think of them right now @_@

    Hmm, not a bad idea. Lots of work though :|
  • 01-17-2011, 02:03 PM
    BobTD
    I noticed your NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, and Wii sections where lacking in good RPGs. =P

    Sooooo.... I guess here:

    NES:
    Wizardry
    Zelda, Links awakening was more so an RPG then the first.
    Dragon Warrior 1-4 (thankfully you can find 1&2 on the GBC)

    SNES:
    The complete list of english games:
     
    7th Saga
    Arcana
    Breath of Fire 1
    Breath of Fire 2
    Chrono Trigger
    Dragon View
    Drakkhen
    Dungeon Master
    Earthbound (Mother 2)
    Estopolis 1 (Lufia & the Fortress of Doom)
    Estopolis 2 (Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals)
    E.V.O. Search for Eden
    Eye of the Beholder
    Final Fantasy 2
    Final Fantasy 3
    Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
    Front Mission 1
    Illusion of Gaia (Soul Blazer 2) (Illusion of Time)
    Illusion of Time (Soul Blazer 2) (Illusion of Gaia)
    Inindo: Way of the Ninja
    Lagoon
    Lord of The Rings
    Lufia & the Fortress of Doom (Estopolis 1)
    Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals (Estopolis 2)
    Might & Magic 3: Isles of Terra
    Mother 2 (Earthbound)
    Paladin's Quest
    Robotrek
    Romancing Saga 3
    Secret of Evermore
    Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2)
    Secret of the Stars
    Seiken Densetsu 2 (Secret of Mana)
    Shadowrun
    Soul Blazer
    Soul Blazer 2 (Illusion of Gaia) (Illusion of Time)
    Soul Blazer 3 (Terranigma)
    Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
    Terranigma (Soul Blazer 3)
    Ultima 6: The False Prophet
    Ultima 7: The Black Gate
    Ultima: Runes of Virtue 2
    Uncharted Waters
    Uncharted Waters 2: New Horizons
    Wizardry 5: Heart of the Maelstrom


    The ones I personally recommend:
    Super mario RPG
    Secret of Mana
    Chrono Trigger
    Earthbound

    N64:
    (oh dear not much to pick from)
    Quest 64
    Paper mario

    Gamecube:

    Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
    Tales of Symphonia
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Phantasy Star Online: Episode I & II
    Evolution Worlds

    Wii:

    Super Paper Mario
    Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
    Phantom Brave: We Meet Again
  • 01-17-2011, 08:41 PM
    Polishkid
    diablo 1 and expansion... diablo 2 and expansion... for the PC
  • 01-17-2011, 08:46 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EpsilonX View Post
    I personally wouldn't consider assassin's creed an RPG by any means, but then again i haven't played it personally (i've watched people play enough to say this though) If other people disagree and say it's an RPG, i'll add it though.

    i'll add .hack though.

    Ummm, I don't see how Assassins Creed doesn't fit the bill of an RPG? You assume the role of a fictional character, what else is there?
  • 01-17-2011, 08:48 PM
    Jayhmmz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    Ummm, I don't see how Assassins Creed doesn't fit the bill of an RPG? You assume the role of a fictional character, what else is there?

    I would class it as a near-sandbox, action adventure game. It's a bit too different from general RPG games, to be an RPG game.
  • 01-17-2011, 08:52 PM
    Samus-Fan
    Final Fantasy XIII. 8 hours in, and I love it. It's also has some of the best graphics available right now.

    Borderlands. Beat it 2 times, I love the game and the original graphics.

    Flab-Ender, it's more of a Action Platformer, just like Uncharted. You do take a role as a player, but there are no attributes to level up and expand on. You can't have allies in a sense, and there just are a lot of things missing. If it counted, most games would.
  • 01-17-2011, 08:52 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jayhmmz View Post
    I would class it as a near-sandbox, action adventure game. It's a bit too different from general RPG games, to be an RPG game.

    Well Kingdom Hearts is about as close to an RPG as Assassins Creed. And I would consider it near-sandbox.
  • 01-17-2011, 08:54 PM
    Samus-Fan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    Well Kingdom Hearts is about as close to an RPG as Assassins Creed. And I would consider it near-sandbox.

    Yes but in Kingdom Hearts, you have allies, you can level up, with attributes going up as well. You don't pick them, but it is the same idea. You also can choose equipment with plenty of options.
  • 01-17-2011, 08:56 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samus-Fan View Post
    Yes but in Kingdom Hearts, you have allies, you can level up, with attributes going up as well. You don't pick them, but it is the same idea. You also can choose equipment with plenty of options.

    You can do almost the exact same thing in Assassins Creed Brotherhood.
  • 01-17-2011, 08:57 PM
    Samus-Fan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    You can do almost the exact same thing in Assassins Creed Brotherhood.

    They aren't the same though, they are completely different games. It's genre is Action Platformer.
    Just because you take the role of a person doesn't make it an RPG.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:00 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samus-Fan View Post
    They aren't the same though, they are completely different games. It's genre is Action Platformer.
    Just because you take the role of a person doesn't make it an RPG.

    How in the world is it a Platformer? It's 3D and free roaming. And of course they're different games, but similar in game play it seems, I mean Kingdom hearts isn't in anyway free roaming.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:03 PM
    Samus-Fan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    How in the world is it a Platformer? It's 3D and free roaming. And of course they're different games, but similar in game play it seems, I mean Kingdom hearts isn't in anyway free roaming.

    Yea it is, there isn't a selected path. You can go freely from world to world as you like, finding new treasure with the new abilities earned. Platformers aren't all 2D. I guess AC isn't completely a platformer, the first was, just a crappy one.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:06 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samus-Fan View Post
    Yea it is, there isn't a selected path. You can go freely from world to world as you like, finding new treasure with the new abilities earned. Platformers aren't all 2D. I guess AC isn't completely a platformer, the first was, just a crappy one.

    I do agree with that, but the first from the latest is completely different. And you're right. Yet I still find AC to be an RPG.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:12 PM
    Jayhmmz
    I think to class a game as an RPG is just down to personal opinion. There will always be conflicting opinions.

    I haven't ever seen an actual official genre check list that a game must fit for it to be, for example, an RPG. I think some games are just loosely labelled as a particular genre based on past games.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:31 PM
    EpsilonX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samus-Fan View Post
    Final Fantasy XIII. 8 hours in, and I love it. It's also has some of the best graphics available right now.

    Sorry, I can't recommend FFXIII to anybody.

    Quote:

    Borderlands. Beat it 2 times, I love the game and the original graphics.
    I consider this more a shooter with leveling up as opposed to a full-fledged RPG



    Btw, Assassin's Creed is NOT an RPG. Watch this video series, it explains it pretty well.

    Part 1 Part 2 Part 3
  • 01-17-2011, 11:27 PM
    Ilyich Valken
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    How in the world is it a Platformer? It's 3D and free roaming. And of course they're different games, but similar in game play it seems, I mean Kingdom hearts isn't in anyway free roaming.

    Assassin's Creed is DEFINTELY a platformer.

    Platforming Games - "The platform game (or platformer) is a video game genre characterized by jumping to and from suspended platforms or over obstacles (jumping puzzles). It must be possible to control these jumps and to fall from platforms or miss jumps. The most common unifying element to these games is a jump button; other jump mechanics include swinging from extendable arms, as in Ristar or Bionic Commando, or bouncing from springboards or trampolines, as in Alpha Waves."

    It's one of the very embodiments of platform and freeroam gaming.
  • 01-18-2011, 06:31 PM
    Samus-Fan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EpsilonX View Post
    no. just no
    I consider this more a shooter with leveling up as opposed to a full-fledged RPG

    Might as well change the Title to "The Official Epsilon X Recommended RPG List" then.
    You also haven't added like 10 RPG's here that actually sparked modern ones to exist.
  • 01-18-2011, 06:33 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samus-Fan View Post
    Might as well change the Title to "The Official Epsilon X Recommended RPG List" then.
    You also haven't added like 10 RPG's here that actually sparked modern ones to exist.

    Some one needed to say that, but do you really think it has the best graphics available now?
  • 01-18-2011, 06:36 PM
    Samus-Fan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    Some one needed to say that, but do you really think it has the best graphics available now?

    I wasn't strictly talking about FFXIII, but with that, on Xbox 360, I believe so. I think Heavy Rain has it beat on PS3 though.

    We could also change the name to, "The Offical STRICTLY RPG AND NO OTHER MIXED GENRE Recommended RPG List" since Borderlands (An RPG) isn't being counted.
    How can Fallout 3 be counted, but Borderlands not counted?
  • 01-18-2011, 06:40 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samus-Fan View Post
    I wasn't strictly talking about FFXIII, but with that, on Xbox 360, I believe so. I think Heavy Rain has it beat on PS3 though.

    We could also change the name to, "The Offical STRICTLY RPG AND NO OTHER MIXED GENRE Recommended RPG List" since Borderlands (An RPG) isn't being counted.
    How can Fallout 3 be counted, but Borderlands not counted?

    And Kingdom Hearts, and not AC. But I see what you're saying. Though I think when Skyrim comes out it will beat it in graphics, if all that has been said about it is true.
  • 01-18-2011, 07:03 PM
    EpsilonX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Samus-Fan View Post
    Might as well change the Title to "The Official Epsilon X Recommended RPG List" then.
    You also haven't added like 10 RPG's here that actually sparked modern ones to exist.

    this topic was meant for full-fledged RPG's, not shooters where u get items and have some leveling up systems, but if the rest of the forum disagrees and says it should go on, then i'll put it on.

    Quote:

    And Kingdom Hearts, and not AC. But I see what you're saying. Though I think when Skyrim comes out it will beat it in graphics, if all that has been said about it is true.
    ASSASSINS CREED IS NOT AN RPG

    Quote:

    We could also change the name to, "The Offical STRICTLY RPG AND NO OTHER MIXED GENRE Recommended RPG List" since Borderlands (An RPG) isn't being counted.
    How can Fallout 3 be counted, but Borderlands not counted?
    Fallout 3 is an RPG with guns. Borderlands is a shooter where u level stuff up.
  • 01-18-2011, 07:07 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EpsilonX View Post
    this topic was meant for full-fledged RPG's, not shooters where u get items and have some leveling up systems, but if the rest of the forum disagrees and says it should go on, then i'll put it on.



    ASSASSINS CREED IS NOT AN RPG



    Fallout 3 is an RPG with guns. Borderlands is a shooter where u level stuff up.

    According to who?! If you find me a quote or anything that says that AC is not an RPG, i'll stop right now.
  • 01-18-2011, 07:09 PM
    Jayhmmz
    "Genres Third person, Action, Stealth, Open World"

    I haven't yet found anything to say that it is an RPG I'm afraid

    Sorry :(
  • 01-18-2011, 07:09 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jayhmmz View Post
    "Genres Third person, Action, Stealth, Open World"

    I haven't yet found anything to say that it is an RPG I'm afraid

    Sorry :(

    But does it say its not?
  • 01-18-2011, 07:12 PM
    Jayhmmz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    But does it say its not?

    Doesn't say it's not, no. But nothing at all mentions anything about it being related to an RPG
  • 01-18-2011, 07:12 PM
    EpsilonX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    According to who?! If you find me a quote or anything that says that AC is not an RPG, i'll stop right now.

    Everbody except you. Hold on, i'll prove it to you right now. gonna post on the amazon forums.

    edit: this computer is a piece of junk and won't let me go on any websites other than facebook and gf
  • 01-18-2011, 07:15 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jayhmmz View Post
    Doesn't say it's not, no. But nothing at all mentions anything about it being related to an RPG

    But I still don't see how it's not. I mean RPG is such a large genre, and very broad. A lot of games can be included, and they don't have to be very specific. I just think the fact that you assume the ROLE of a character and play through a story pretty much puts it in that category.
  • 01-18-2011, 07:15 PM
    Samus-Fan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aizen View Post
    NES / SNES :
    Zelda : A Link to the Past

    N64:
    Zelda : Ocarina of Time

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BobTD View Post
    I noticed your NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, and Wii sections where lacking in good RPGs. =P

    Sooooo.... I guess here:

    NES:
    Wizardry
    Zelda, Links awakening was more so an RPG then the first.
    Dragon Warrior 1-4 (thankfully you can find 1&2 on the GBC)

    SNES:
    The ones I personally recommend:
    Super mario RPG
    Secret of Mana
    Chrono Trigger
    Earthbound

    N64:
    (oh dear not much to pick from)
    Quest 64
    Paper mario

    Gamecube:

    Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
    Tales of Symphonia
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Phantasy Star Online: Episode I & II
    Evolution Worlds

    Wii:

    Super Paper Mario
    Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World
    Phantom Brave: We Meet Again

    Ignored those.
    Those first 7 completely started RPG's and you haven't added those.

    And Fallout is a RPG with guns.
    Leveling up, attributes, quests.

    Borderlands only has leveling up, quests, tons of different types of weapons, different attribute changes (Class Mods), and upgrades you can have for your player.
    I'm not seeing how they are any different, other than in Fallout you can specifically choose the stats you up on where on Borderlands, they are thrown into Class Mods and player upgrades.
  • 01-18-2011, 07:19 PM
    Flab-Ender
    The only difference is that Borderlands is a wee bit simpler.
  • 01-18-2011, 08:20 PM
    EpsilonX
    1. There's a difference between "ignored" and "haven't gotten around to adding to the list" Maybe you should learn the difference.

    2. The purpose of this list is so that if somebody wants some good RPG's to play, they can just check the list. Thus, the list is meant for games that are mainly RPG's as opposed to games with RPG elements. I'll still honor your request, by A. opening a topic on another forum and seeing if they think Borderlands and Assassin's Creed can truly be called RPG's, as well as adding a second list for games that have RPG elements but aren't full-blown RPGs. Can we settle with doing this?
  • 01-18-2011, 08:26 PM
    Flab-Ender
    Is it really that big of a deal to add it to the list? I mean really?But ok, whatever.
  • 01-18-2011, 08:30 PM
    EpsilonX
    I'm not going to add an action-adventure game to a list of games to recommend to people looking for an RPG. The point of this list was just to list the best in the genre, not every game in the genre. RPG or not, Borderlands and Assassin's Creed aren't good examples of RPGs. I wouldn't recommend Metal Gear Solid 4 to somebody looking for a game similar to call of duty, even though it's basically a shooter. But I figured Borderland's RPG elements might interest people that like RPGs, which is why I'm going to add an "rpg elements list"

    edit: this guy on the amazon video game forum said "Borderlands is more FPS than RPG, and Assassin's Creed... wait, what?" I'm still waiting on more responses.
  • 01-18-2011, 08:51 PM
    Samus-Fan
    Fair enough, I have no arguments with that compromise.
  • 01-18-2011, 09:14 PM
    EpsilonX
    I updated with some of bob's suggestions, although some of them seem to be fairly un-liked based on reviews (quest 64) so I didn't include them. I'll add some more stuff to the NES and SNES sections, as well as adding the zelda games to the "rpg elements" section, since, while they're not truly full-fledged rpgs, they're influential to the genre
  • 01-18-2011, 10:01 PM
    Jayhmmz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Flab-Ender View Post
    But I still don't see how it's not. I mean RPG is such a large genre, and very broad. A lot of games can be included, and they don't have to be very specific. I just think the fact that you assume the ROLE of a character and play through a story pretty much puts it in that category.

    So effectively you're saying every single game with a campaign is an RPG game, even the Call of Duty campaign. There's just no solid evidence for AC to be classed as RPG.

    In Assassins Creed, you're not questing as such, it's different. You don't level up at all, apart from leveling your Assassin Brotherhood up, but that's pointless anyway; it's more of a third person combat game, with the adventure side added onto it.

    Each to their own opinions, and you're entitled to yours, but personally I don't see the link to RPG in Assassins Creed. As I've said, the point you brought forward could license any game's campaign with a character to play as, to be an RPG.
  • 01-19-2011, 02:03 AM
    BobTD
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EpsilonX View Post
    I updated with some of bob's suggestions, although some of them seem to be fairly un-liked based on reviews (quest 64) so I didn't include them. I'll add some more stuff to the NES and SNES sections, as well as adding the zelda games to the "rpg elements" section, since, while they're not truly full-fledged rpgs, they're influential to the genre

    quest 64 got terrible reviews, and it was kinda hard. But its still one of the only RPGs of its type. I know a few people who liked it, I think its an amazing classic. =P

    *goes and hugs his copy* its ok I love you Quest....
  • 03-11-2011, 12:52 AM
    Gilgamesh
    SNES had Final Fantasy IV, V, VI, and the Breath of Fire games for some good old school action. Star Ocean and Illusion of Gaia were pretty good too but I never finished those so....partial recommendation. XD
  • 03-11-2011, 02:49 AM
    GypsyRose
    love love love love, kingdom hearts :)
    and fallout is good too!
  • 03-11-2011, 10:17 AM
    paecmaker
    what about oblivion ( I saw morrowind on the list)

    Now I dont think you take pc games but if you do: fallout 1/2

    And alpha protocol, you might not think its good but it stand "the espionage rpg" on the case.
  • 03-15-2011, 12:05 PM
    Exentenzed
    If you wouldnt mind adding PC RPG's then Baldurs Gate 2 is something i would like to see on the list. :)
  • 03-19-2011, 02:51 AM
    williamkills
    man
    check out fallen earth
  • 03-19-2011, 07:18 AM
    Jayhmmz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamkills View Post
    check out fallen earth

    Wow, the first semi-constructive post I have seen you do.. congrats?
  • 03-19-2011, 08:41 AM
    paecmaker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jayhmmz View Post
    Wow, the first semi-constructive post I have seen you do.. congrats?

    Wow he deserves a price:D
  • 03-19-2011, 08:49 AM
    Jayhmmz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paecmaker View Post
    Wow he deserves a price:D

    Thank the Lord, he is banned!!!
  • 03-19-2011, 10:38 AM
    EpsilonX
    I didn't include a PC section cuz it would probably be longer than all of the other consoles combined haha. But If everybody really wants I guess I could add one.
  • 03-19-2011, 11:18 AM
    Exentenzed
    Nah i understand why you didnt :P Was just tossing in a suggestion. :)

    Im sorry to bring this up again though but i just have to say my oppinion.

    AC is definitely not an RPG, yes it contains a few limited elements that is often used in RPG's but its in NO way a RPG.
    Saying its a RPG because you take on the role of a fictional character would label almost every game out there an RPG.

    What defines it is that you have a character that you develop as you play,(usually trough leveling) this includes everything from skillset, to appearance and personality.

    Example: in AC you arent allowed to kill civilians or friendlies as this will eventually desync you. and because of this alone you can say that this game is somewhat predefined in how you are supposed to play it and is as such not a true RPG.

    Also, Somewhere it was said that you wouldnt give up on calling it an RPG before you saw a quote that is wasnt one.
    1st. It usually isnt mentioned that it isnt anywhere because it is a given.
    2nd. And to fullfill your criteria:
    Quote:

    Btw, Assassin's Creed is NOT an RPG.
  • 03-19-2011, 11:20 AM
    EpsilonX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Exentenzed View Post
    Nah i understand why you didnt :P Was just tossing in a suggestion. :)

    Im sorry to bring this up again though but i just have to say my oppinion.

    Borderlands, Its a full fledged RPG, with mostly shooter elements. Wouldnt realy reccommend it though, as the only thing that got me pumped up was the intro. :P

    AC is definitely not an RPG, yes it contains a few elements that is often used in RPG's but its in NO way a RPG.

    See, most people consider borderlands to be primarily a shooter. When I want an RPG i'm more looking for a typical rpg. If I wanted to play a shooter though, I'd look at Borderlands. If somebody said "whats a good RPG" I wouldn't ever say borderlands, even if it IS a good game (i havent played it)
  • 03-19-2011, 12:18 PM
    Muffincat
    Wasn't Baldur's Gate 2 also for PS2?

    edit: "Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance/Dark Alliance 2" is what I am thinking of, which apparently is not the same as Baldur's Gate 2. That makes sense... anyway, this game was super fun : D
  • 03-19-2011, 02:03 PM
    Exentenzed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EpsilonX View Post
    See, most people consider borderlands to be primarily a shooter. When I want an RPG i'm more looking for a typical rpg. If I wanted to play a shooter though, I'd look at Borderlands. If somebody said "whats a good RPG" I wouldn't ever say borderlands, even if it IS a good game (i havent played it)

    Yea i was wrong when it came to borderlands, i did the mistake of typing before thinking. anyways, edited the post afterwards.
  • 05-05-2011, 09:20 AM
    NeonYouki
    You forgot to add "The Illusion of Gaia" to the list of SNES games, as well as "The Legend of Zelda - A Link to the Past." Also for PS2, "Persona 4."
  • 05-08-2011, 05:20 AM
    Thomas_abeln
    Does anyone still play Dark age of camelot or is that all gone?
  • 05-08-2011, 05:19 PM
    SiC TwiSteD
    PS3 - Demon's Souls
    360 - Star Ocean IV, Dragon Age Origins I & II, Red Dead Redemption( I personally didnt like RDR but it won GOTY so apparently people liked it)
  • 05-19-2011, 08:55 AM
    R3d M4g3
    Edlers Scrolls III Morrowind, Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon, Final Fantasy I & II (, (NES, PS1, GBA and PSP versions).
  • 05-19-2011, 12:48 PM
    EpsilonX
    Added a few more to the list, as well as a PC section, so help me fill the PC section.
  • 07-05-2011, 08:23 AM
    MIKEFMARKETING
    Reviews
    Good Reviews
  • 07-05-2011, 08:32 AM
    Psychotray
    Im not the biggest fan of RPG's, but I thoroughly enjoyed the Zelda series, one of my favourite games, I remember that a few years back, I played one of them on the Nintendo 64.
  • 07-10-2011, 04:21 PM
    PurePowah
    RPG's aren't that much fun imo.. usually they don't have any PvP
  • 07-19-2011, 12:30 AM
    G33kInTh3Pink
    I can't wait for elder scrolls sky rim it's goingbto be awesome
  • 07-19-2011, 12:34 AM
    EpsilonX
    There are rpg's with PVP. Diablo 2 and Demons souls have PVP.

    anyways, Zelda isn't an rpg, we've decided this. stop posting about it T.T
  • 07-19-2011, 12:37 AM
    Slay
    I am not a big fan of Diablo, don't get me wrong, it was great, when 2d was mainly what you saw, besides the funny looking 3D games, now it just seems like.. get with it, ya know? :P
  • 07-19-2011, 12:40 AM
    EpsilonX
    I think it's an awesome game, that just focuses on the core of stats and gameplay. no need for any flashier of graphics. Diablo 1 on the other hand plays like crap
  • 07-19-2011, 12:44 AM
    Slay
    I am not sure wich one I had.. it had an extension for characters, it was like assassin and bluh bluh. I was used to fallout tactics at about that time. :P
  • 07-19-2011, 10:00 AM
    podz101
    The only RPG i played is the fable series...
  • 07-19-2011, 04:05 PM
    Callanrobertson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by G33kInTh3Pink View Post
    I can't wait for elder scrolls sky rim it's goingbto be awesome

    Agreed it is gonna be awesome :cheesy:
  • 07-19-2011, 05:13 PM
    riwin019
    How about the last remnant for pc, and monster hunter tri for the WII
  • 08-09-2011, 11:05 AM
    Bertrum
    Digimon World 1 on the PS1 is and will always be a favourite of mine :P
  • 08-09-2011, 01:00 PM
    EpsilonX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bertrum View Post
    Digimon World 1 on the PS1 is and will always be a favourite of mine :P

    I love that game but I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone. It's too hard in my opinion. By the time you get your digimon strong enough to fight some of the boss monsters, it dies. I've NEVER beaten garurumon.
  • 08-09-2011, 01:05 PM
    Bertrum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EpsilonX View Post
    I love that game but I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone. It's too hard in my opinion. By the time you get your digimon strong enough to fight some of the boss monsters, it dies. I've NEVER beaten garurumon.

    I suppose it's more of a novelty for Digimon fans, I really enjoyed it, I still give it a whirl now and then just for nostalgia purposes :P

    The only part I ever got stuck on was the end fight with Machinedramon, that sucked so bad, my champion Angemon versus a mega Digimon :(
  • 08-09-2011, 01:40 PM
    EpsilonX
    See, I've never even gotten that far. I can never get my guys strong enough to fight some of the tougher bosses (like warumonzemon or the guys in factorial town)

    and technically, it's only an ultimate, since mega form wasn't introduced until later on.
  • 08-09-2011, 03:09 PM
    Bertrum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EpsilonX View Post
    See, I've never even gotten that far. I can never get my guys strong enough to fight some of the tougher bosses (like warumonzemon or the guys in factorial town)

    and technically, it's only an ultimate, since mega form wasn't introduced until later on.

    Technically it is an ultimate, however we all know it's a Mega :P

    But yeah the best thing to do I find is train your Digimon non-stop until it is Champion/Ultimate, then go and kick butt for a few days while you can :D
  • 08-09-2011, 03:58 PM
    EpsilonX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bertrum View Post
    Technically it is an ultimate, however we all know it's a Mega :P

    But yeah the best thing to do I find is train your Digimon non-stop until it is Champion/Ultimate, then go and kick butt for a few days while you can :D

    That's what I do, but it's annoying since it takes such a long time to get your guy strong enough, and by the time it is strong enough, you only have like 2 or 3 days left to battle with it.

    They're making a new Digimon World based on the first one for the PSP, hopefully it's more balanced. I'm definitely interested
  • 08-09-2011, 04:25 PM
    Bertrum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EpsilonX View Post
    That's what I do, but it's annoying since it takes such a long time to get your guy strong enough, and by the time it is strong enough, you only have like 2 or 3 days left to battle with it.

    They're making a new Digimon World based on the first one for the PSP, hopefully it's more balanced. I'm definitely interested

    Me too, it will be cool to see it :D
  • 08-17-2011, 07:25 PM
    mutilations
    Suggestions
    Please don't get mad if any of these were already suggested, I didn't read every page but I think if maybe they are said by more than one user, it could get recognition. Keep in mind that some of these can be considered Strategy with RPG elements as well. :)

    SNES
    The 7th Saga
    Final Fantasy II
    Final Fantasy III
    Breath of Fire
    Breath of Fire 2
    Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen

    N64
    Aidyn Chronicles: The First Mage
    Ogre Battle 64

    GameCube
    Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean
    Baten Kaitos Origins
    Evolution Worlds
    Skies of Arcadia: Legends

    Wii
    *insert a really angry face here*

    GameBoy
    Lufia: The Legend Returns

    GBA
    Tales of Phantasia
    Golden Sun
    Golden Sun: Lost Age
    Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis

    DS
    Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
    Sands of Destruction
    Golden Sun: Dark Dawn
    Knights in the Nightmare (?)
    Luminous Arc2
    DisgaeaDS
    Hero's Saga Laevatein Tactics
    Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
    Final Fantasy IV
    Final Fantasy III

    PS1
    Lunar: Silver Star Story
    Lunar 2: Eternal Blue
    Grandia
    Tales of Destiny II
    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 2
    Breath of Fire III
    Breath of Fire IV
    Thousand Arms
    Ogre Tactics
    Valkyrie Profile
    Star Ocean: The Second Story
    Dragon Warrior VII
    Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth*
    Wild Arms
    Wild Arms 2
    Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
    Vagrant Story
    Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen

    PS2
    Unlimited Saga
    Tales of Legendia
    Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
    Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2
    Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
    Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
    Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner 2
    Grandia II
    Grandia Xtreme
    Grandia III
    Tales of the Abyss
    Growlanser Generations
    Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana
    Atelier Iris2: The Azoth of Destiny
    Makai Kingdom
    GrimGrimoire
    Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia
    Ar tonelico: Melody of Metafalica
    Shadow Hearts: Covenant
    Shadow Hearts: From the New World
    Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
    Suikoden Tactics
    Dark Cloud
    Dark Cloud 2
    Wild Arms 3
    Wild Arms 4
    Wild Arms: Alter Code F
    Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
    Arc the Lad: End of Darkness
    La Pucelle Tactics
    Soul Nomad & the World Eaters
    Eternal Poison
    Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
    Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
    Magna Carta: Tears of Blood
    Ephemeral Fantasia
    Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity*
    Phantom Brave*
    Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter

    PS3
    Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
    Hyperdimension Neptunia
    Trinity Universe
    Enchanted Arms
    Last Rebellion
    Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland
    Eternal Sonata

    PSP
    Lunar: Silver Star Harmony
    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
    Riviera: The Promised Land
    PoPoLoCrois
    Valkyrie Profile Lenneth
    The Legend of Heroes: A Tear of Vermillion
    The Legend of Heroes 2: Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch
    The Legend of Heroes 3: Song of the Ocean
    Mana Khemia: Student Alliance
    Brave Story: New Traveler
    Valhalla Knights 2
    Crimson Gem Saga
    Final Fantasy IV: The Complete Collection
    Tactics Ogre: Let us Cling Together

    Xbox 360
    Record of Agarest War Zero
    Divinity II: Ego Draconis
    The Last Remnant
    Lost Odyssey


    This does not cover all system and not all these games are "ground-breaking rpg titles" but if you are an RPG-fan and you can't get enough, these are some titles that can give you the substance you crave. I will mention that the Lunar Games and Grandia games are some of the BEST RPG games that have come out with Grandia holding the best combat design system title, in my book anyways. All Shin Megami Tensei games should be played because they are all a unique experience. Disgaea is for those that are extremely hardcore to Strategy-based RPGs. The * also denotes extreme difficulty, or at least it was a pain when I was playing. lol
  • 08-17-2011, 08:59 PM
    EpsilonX
    Dang, thats a lot of games. I'll get to updating this eventually, thanks for the post.
  • 08-17-2011, 09:20 PM
    mutilations
    No problem at all. I will keep adding games as I get them if they haven't been put on this list yet. I will help the best I can because I like to stay completely up-to-date with RPGs now that I've seen Playstation get back into the scene and developers following suit. If you have any questions too, let me know.
  • 08-17-2011, 09:27 PM
    BobTD
    Im thinking we should add he first jade Cocoon for the ps1.

    Also I cant believe Final Fantasy Tactics is not included. Hands down my favorite RPG. Unless we arent counting tactics RPGs, but I see Ogre Tactics and they are made by the same group.
  • 08-17-2011, 09:30 PM
    EpsilonX
    I coulda swore I added Final Fantasy Tactics...

    edit: yea, tactics and tactics: war of the lions are on my post. and theres no point in posting about games already on the list.
  • 08-23-2011, 07:24 PM
    Kenoi
    I'm curious about Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
    and

    Tactics ogre: let us cling together

    I'm really thinking about getting both but... I wanna know which one's worth playing & worth my time, haha
  • 08-23-2011, 11:50 PM
    mutilations
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kenoi View Post
    I'm curious about Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
    and

    Tactics ogre: let us cling together

    I'm really thinking about getting both but... I wanna know which one's worth playing & worth my time, haha

    I could play them and do a review or maybe a summary, as I'm about to beat Hyperdimension Neptunia and need another game.
  • 08-24-2011, 06:21 AM
    Kenoi
    well, if you really feel like it, then go for it. but if you feel like doing it in a summary, I'm fine with that too. either way works. haha. thanks
  • 08-27-2011, 05:45 PM
    EpsilonX
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kenoi View Post
    I'm curious about Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
    and

    Tactics ogre: let us cling together

    I'm really thinking about getting both but... I wanna know which one's worth playing & worth my time, haha

    I just started Persona 3, so I can tell you about that.

    You basically go to class, run around school talking to classmates and participating in activities. Depending on how well you do in school, who you talk to, what activities you partake in, etc, your athletics, charm, and some other stat will go up. These stats going up increases the realm of people you're able to become friends with. Becoming friends with people creates social links, and the better friends you become with them the higher your social link gets.

    At night time, there's a thing called the dark hour, and you explore a place called tartarus, at which point it's a standard rpg, except you only control 1 character. However, the strength of your attacks is affected by how strong your social links are.

    Basically, it's a dating sim and a JRPG at the same time.
  • 08-27-2011, 09:27 PM
    Kenoi
    I see. is it like a type of game where I can TAKE MY TIME with? you know what I mean? I make emphasis on that. i mean, every rpg can be a long one, depends on how you play it right? I'll think about it, but yes, thanks epsilon
  • 08-28-2011, 06:46 AM
    Psychotray
    I might rent out Dragon Age when I get my Ps3 this week, Im not sure if its even worth renting out.
  • 09-09-2011, 09:28 AM
    R!nG
    try neverwinter nights or dragon age series for pc.... i liked dragon age 1 the most tho..
  • 09-29-2011, 08:42 PM
    BloNDeWoLF6
    I have only one suggestion to this marvelous list.
    On SNES there was a Nintendo released RPG called Mario RPG.
    I would say it would rate 8/10 from an RPG stand point,
    9.5/10 for die hard Mario lovers, looking for a different Mario fix.
  • 11-27-2011, 05:11 PM
    oreo.slayer
    Ewf
    HOW ABOUT SKYRIM? :p
  • 12-02-2011, 12:25 AM
    zamran87
    Skyrim-xbox360, ps3, pc
  • 12-03-2011, 11:08 AM
    Sunsetforgotten
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BloNDeWoLF6 View Post
    I have only one suggestion to this marvelous list.
    On SNES there was a Nintendo released RPG called Mario RPG.
    I would say it would rate 8/10 from an RPG stand point,
    9.5/10 for die hard Mario lovers, looking for a different Mario fix.

    I love Mario RPG. Brings back so many memories for me. I'm not even a huge mario fan, but that game is amazing.

    I would suggest Suikoden 1/2 if anyone could find it. Older games with intriguing story lines and varying modes of combat.
  • 02-20-2012, 03:23 AM
    danielpunk
    I needed PSP help.

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