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Marijuana legalized in Colorado
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Good for them! It should be legalized (at least) as a medicine everywhere. I do agree that for some it is a gateaway-drug, I have some great examples in my circle of acquaintances, but still. All my support for legalizing it.
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the first $40 million in revenue raised annually by such tax be credited to the public school capital construction assistance fund
Awesomeness.
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Legalizing MJ, gay marriage being legalized in more and more states. This countries at least sort of on the right track.
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I'm personally against legalization of marijuana, but that's not what this topic is about...
apparently, it was legalized in Washington too.
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It was in WA also. If they were smart, they'd legalize in every state. There is no downside to it and the amount of money in taxes we'd collect would be ridonk.
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it's legal in Washington because Obama needs his Mary Jane.
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Blows my mind that there are people serving 5+ year prison sentences for just a few ounces marijuana possession. Some child molesters get off easier than that.
This is definitely a step in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by Mizel
Legalizing MJ, gay marriage being legalized in more and more states. This countries at least sort of on the right track.
People are waking up. So many things are irrationally labeled taboo, and the laws that prohibit them make absolutely no sense. Let the gays be happy. And let the stoners get blazed and eat too many tacos. I guarantee both will cause less problems, and are significantly less annoying, than those that try to keep these laws in place.
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I think legalization and regulation is always a good way to go.
I'm glad even though I most likely won't be seeing any of it myself soon.
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Originally Posted by egg-whites333
it's legal in Washington because Obama needs his Mary Jane.
Wrong Washington there but it's legal in DC too but the laws are a bit difference though. Don't know the specifics though.
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Originally Posted by LiNuX
I think legalization and regulation is always a good way to go.
I'm glad even though I most likely won't be seeing any of it myself soon.
Wrong Washington there but it's legal in DC too but the laws are a bit difference though. Don't know the specifics though.
Oh okay then my comment is invalid.
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Never really cared if they legalize, people can do what they please IMO, but I personally will probably never use it. I've seen too many of my friends turn into complete idiots and have it ruin their lives.
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Originally Posted by Trunks
Never really cared if they legalize, people can do what they please IMO, but I personally will probably never use it. I've seen too many of my friends turn into complete idiots and have it ruin their lives.
They were probably idiots to begin with, the weed just made it more obvious.
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I have a cousin I was really close with ruin his life with wee and other drugs so the chance of me doing it are low even if it does become legal. He has been set to the hospital for not paying back his drug money and all kinds of crazy stuff.
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man... this sounds bad. what if they were to operate a vehicle while being high? cops are on alert status the whole time now... maybe meeting their quotas of catching civilians some kind of HUI? haha
either way, I'm against this, but I'm sure there are some specific details on this (as linux said)
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Originally Posted by Synge
They were probably idiots to begin with, the weed just made it more obvious.
I totally agree.
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Originally Posted by Kenoi
man... this sounds bad. what if they were to operate a vehicle while being high? cops are on alert status the whole time now... maybe meeting their quotas of catching civilians some kind of HUI? haha
either way, I'm against this, but I'm sure there are some specific details on this (as linux said)
There are specs. And you can get a DUI, just like you can with alcohol (this will be measured by a blood test and the amount of THC in your system). You can only carry 1 oz on you at a time. Medical dispensaries can not sell to the public. You can grow your own (but can only have a certain # of plants and you can keep all of your own crops). You need a license to sell. Those are just a few examples of some of the regulations. And yes, being high and operating a vehicle high wouldn't be smart. But how is that any different than someone operating a car while drunk? The risk is always there. It's up to people to be responsible... just like how it's up to them when they're drunk.
People that think weed is any worse than alcohol are morons. Weed doesn't **** you up anywhere near the amount that alcohol can. So all of you that are against weed being legal, I assume must be against alcohol being legal as well? If not, that makes no sense. I can tell you that I've blacked out from being drunk. The worst thing that happened to me when I was high was that I ate some cheetohs and took a nap. I'd rather someone be stoned and driving a vehicle, then drunk and possibly black out.
And as for people ruining their lives with weed? I'm sorry, but they were destined to be screw ups with or without the weed. I know people that smoke weed that have their masters in physics (hell, my best friends dad is a doctor and he smokes daily), just like I know people that have smoked weed that are burn outs.
I smoke weed on a daily basis. I went to and graduated from college. I have a house, a good job and a family.... I have all of these things because I wanted them and worked toward them. Weed doesn't hinder any of that for me. So again, if you know someone whose life is messed up, trust me... it's not the weed. It's them >_<
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I'm not going to debate out, because it's pointless, no ones mind is going to be changed about it. But, IMO there hasn't been enough studies and test on the long term effects of Marijuana to be conclusive that there are no negative side effects. I've noticed everyone that smokes it says there aren't, but that's not saying much IMO. It's completely possible that there isn't any, but I don't anyone has enough evidence to make a decision on it yet. I mean just because people smoked it and their lives turned out great and nothing bad happened, doesn't mean it did for everyone. Not everyone that drinks gets liver failure, not everyone that smokes get lung cancer. Again, not against anyone that uses it, just not going to my self.
The good news about this, now that Marijuana is legal in Colorado, test will definitely be done on it, and we'll finally get some conclusive proof to the effects of it.
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Oh, you're totally right. I mean, there have been many tests done on long term use- but none of them have been fully conclusive yet. My point is just that it doesn't make sense for alcohol and/or cigarettes to be legal and marijuana to not be. They HAVE concluded that long term use of alcohol/cigs is terrible for your body. There's no doubt about that but yet those things are still fully legal?
But that's my whole point. Some people drink alcohol like mature adults and it doesn't destroy their lives. Others turn into raging alcoholics and destroy their livers. Same thing with weed. It's all about being responsible and I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for those that don't know how to be responsible. But that sure as hell shouldn't be any reason for me not to be able to smoke. It's the whole "the few ruining it for everyone" concept.
Legalizing weed should have the same guidelines as anything else out there of the same nature. It should be regulated and if need be those that abuse it should most def be prosecuted.
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Originally Posted by Mizel
Oh, you're totally right. I mean, there have been many tests done on long term use- but none of them have been fully conclusive yet. My point is just that it doesn't make sense for alcohol and/or cigarettes to be legal and marijuana to not be. They HAVE concluded that long term use of alcohol/cigs is terrible for your body. There's no doubt about that but yet those things are still fully legal?
But that's my whole point. Some people drink alcohol like mature adults and it doesn't destroy their lives. Others turn into raging alcoholics and destroy their livers. Same thing with weed. It's all about being responsible and I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for those that don't know how to be responsible. But that sure as hell shouldn't be any reason for me not to be able to smoke. It's the whole "the few ruining it for everyone" concept.
Legalizing weed should have the same guidelines as anything else out there of the same nature. It should be regulated and if need be those that abuse it should most def be prosecuted.
The only reason Tobacco and Alcohol are legal is solely because they were around pre 1900's. If alcohol was just founded in the past decade or so, it wouldn't be legalized, same with tobacco.
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So was slavery and it's illegal now? lol So they find out this stuff can do major harm to your body but keep it around because it's "always been around"? Doesn't make much sense. However, I am amused to think of the mass chaos that would ensue if they tried to make either item illegal.
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Originally Posted by Mizel
So was slavery and it's illegal now? lol So they find out this stuff can do major harm to your body but keep it around because it's "always been around"? Doesn't make much sense. However, I am amused to think of the mass chaos that would ensue if they tried to make either item illegal.
Owning another human and doing something that only effects your self ( in most cases) is completely different. Ethics come into play with that, I wouldn't even compare making slavery illegal to any other thing.
Plus making slavery illegal wasn't so easy, it wasn't the only thing America as a country couldn't come to an agreement with physical conflict with and caused us to break into our only civil war. Also, the thing that's stopping us from making it illegal now is the jobs and money it creates. If they made both illegal, so many jobs would be lost and the government wouldn't be getting any of the taxes from it. We'd definitely go into a recession then.
Also, they did try to make alcohol illegal and like you said, mass chaos everywhere lol.
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I know LOL It was a ridiculous comparison, just trying to make a point. But no really... I get why we keep these things legal (and I think we should), but really what it boils down to is that marijuana is basically on the exact same level as either alcohol or cigarettes. I just can't see why anyone would be against it. Plus, it will also create jobs and we can tax the shiz out of it like we do with cigarettes (at least I think cigs are more taxed than other items?).
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I completely agree with you, IMO cigarettes have worse effects on the body then both Alcohol and Marijuana. I think now that Colorado has legalized it, other states will too, just a matter of time.
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I am kinda twisted in this. In one way its better if the weed goes away from the streets and into places where it can be controlled. On the other way it might be easier to get your hands on it now. And as said its not known what effect it got on the brain in the long turn. However it does things with the brain (just like alcohol) and it distorts certain functions (like the sense of time and short time memory).
However in my oppinion alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana, only that people know more about alcohol and its effects so that makes marijuana more "mysterious" in the minds of many people. And many thinks that things they dont know all about is more dangerous.
I hoped I made sense :p
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Haha It made perfect sense. And I totally agree. I think cognitively, alcohol is worse for you and health wise cigs are worse for you. Out of the 3, I'd say sweet ole Mary Jane is the least harmful (at least from what we know already).
I will say this. I've had my share of being drunk and stoned. I wasn't kidding when I said the worst thing I've done when stoned was eat a bag of cheetohs and nap LOL When I first started smoking, I wouldnt drive though because I had the tendency to drive suuuuper slow haha But I have def made some baaaaad decisions while black out drunk. Not to mention the vomiting and hangovers :/
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Originally Posted by Mizel
I totally agree.
There are specs. And you can get a DUI, just like you can with alcohol (this will be measured by a blood test and the amount of THC in your system). You can only carry 1 oz on you at a time. Medical dispensaries can not sell to the public. You can grow your own (but can only have a certain # of plants and you can keep all of your own crops). You need a license to sell. Those are just a few examples of some of the regulations. And yes, being high and operating a vehicle high wouldn't be smart. But how is that any different than someone operating a car while drunk? The risk is always there. It's up to people to be responsible... just like how it's up to them when they're drunk.
People that think weed is any worse than alcohol are morons. Weed doesn't **** you up anywhere near the amount that alcohol can. So all of you that are against weed being legal, I assume must be against alcohol being legal as well? If not, that makes no sense. I can tell you that I've blacked out from being drunk. The worst thing that happened to me when I was high was that I ate some cheetohs and took a nap. I'd rather someone be stoned and driving a vehicle, then drunk and possibly black out.
And as for people ruining their lives with weed? I'm sorry, but they were destined to be screw ups with or without the weed. I know people that smoke weed that have their masters in physics (hell, my best friends dad is a doctor and he smokes daily), just like I know people that have smoked weed that are burn outs.
I smoke weed on a daily basis. I went to and graduated from college. I have a house, a good job and a family.... I have all of these things because I wanted them and worked toward them. Weed doesn't hinder any of that for me. So again, if you know someone whose life is messed up, trust me... it's not the weed. It's them >_<
thanks for the complete detail, didn't mean to make you rant. speaking about that, I am kind of changing my mind-- it could help the people who are starved, that can be a good use of weed right? like a medicinal use. but yes, I agree. its the people who dont listen to the law these days ...
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Originally Posted by Kenoi
thanks for the complete detail, didn't mean to make you rant. speaking about that, I am kind of changing my mind-- it could help the people who are starved, that can be a good use of weed right? like a medicinal use. but yes, I agree. its the people who dont listen to the law these days ...
Oh no, you didn't make me rant! lol I was just trying to show my point of view on it :P
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Originally Posted by Trunks
The only reason Tobacco and Alcohol are legal is solely because they were around pre 1900's. If alcohol was just founded in the past decade or so, it wouldn't be legalized, same with tobacco.
Dude, Weeds been around for thousands of years. As for the topic, I'm indifferent Good for some bad for others.
It's all about moderation.. with any mind altering substance people who can't do Cigarettes, Alcohol or weed in moderation should stay away.
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Originally Posted by Shixx
Dude, Weeds been around for thousands of years. As for the topic, I'm indifferent Good for some bad for others.
It's all about moderation.. with any mind altering substance people who can't do Cigarettes, Alcohol or weed in moderation should stay away.
Yeah, but it wasn't mass produced like tobacco and alcohol, makes a big difference. Before the !950's or so, marijuana wasn't very known
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Originally Posted by Trunks
The only reason Tobacco and Alcohol are legal is solely because they were around pre 1900's. If alcohol was just founded in the past decade or so, it wouldn't be legalized, same with tobacco.
marijuana was actually founded arounded the same time as tobacco and alchol, actually it was americas first paper product, the decleration of independence was written on it, the only reason it was criminilized is because the paper industry was losing money so they had a part of it's discrimination, our founding farmer george washington had an entire field of plants for himself, goes to show that mary j has been with america since its dawn.
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