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    Default The USA is NOT free country

    In many of our minds (those that live in this country) the USA ( i don't say America since there is more to America than us, ie north and south America =/= us) is a free land and many have come to us in a desperation find what they determine to be "freedom". In modern day US there are many thing that we can do legally. But that is the sad part. I am sick and tired of a country that claims that we are free yet we are subjection to laws and prohibition that should not be here in the first place. I can hear it now, the huddled masses saying "If you don't like than leave and see how much you like it.". Well **** you, this country was founded on the principle that people can and do as they wish without and persecution from anyone else. When you look back on this you will see that it is nothing but lies. We are not free and we cannot doing anything that out peers deem outstanding by THEIR standards. We have hundreds of thousands of laws that prohibit and control any actions taken by our citizens. This country is rotting and soon will be a cesspool of hell that will only pollute the world in its growth. I know that this will do nothing to change anything or make anything better but i need to get it off my chest that this so called "Free" country can limit what people can do. So please, in behalf of our brothers and sister of this USA, please bring up your opinion on to why this country seems to be free to you and will be sure as hell to shoot them down and let you burn in the misery that is false information feed to you by the DICTATORSHIP that is America.

    **** this false country with its false government and its influence by major corporations.

    Edit: i will be asking Linux to personally delete any comments that are not related to this discussion.
    Last edited by Cervantes; 07-10-2009 at 04:58 PM.

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    Freedom is a funny word is it not. By freedom you want the right to do whatever you want without the consequences which you would be subjected to today. But, true freedom would be utter chaos. The anarchy of having no laws of which to abide by would result in the USA destroying itself. For example, there would be no penalty for murder - how safe and 'free' would that make you feel? Knowing that someone could kill you at any moment and get away with it scot-free. Likely everybody would freak out and kill as many people as they could before they got killed.
    Also, stealing would be A-okay. So, everybody steals all the food they want from anywhere, the games from anywhere and it would be perfectly all right. Then companies stop making the food, games, clothes and everything else 'cos they don't want to and they ain't makin money. At somepoint the whole place will be screwed.
    There are plenty of examples of what would happen if America were to become truly "free", and the majority of them, not good.
    It's nice to think that if you had anarchy, everyone would still be civil - working, not killing on sight and just geberally making the country a better place. But reality is reality and no doubt people would do what they want, when they want, not giving a tinkers-curse about the consequences.

    Of course, others may view freedom as the ability to have a say in laws, to be of the religion they want or who-knows what else. Personally, i don't know if the USA gives people that freedom, but maybe that's the freedom they mean, whan people say the USA is free.

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    While many of our "freedoms" have eroded somewhat and continue to do so, thanks to over legislation and special interests, we are still one of the freest nations in the world. That's why we are still a people magnet for many other countries. (still not saying that we're the only country but we do offer many opportunities that many countries cannot)

    What exactly are you talking about when you say, "we are subjection (sic) to laws and prohibition that should not be here in the first place"?

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    well, we're free to do other things that don't restrict the freedom of others, or...whatever that word is their rights. you can't kill somebody, because then they no longer have any freedom, you're basically removing their right to live.

    if somebody has a business, they worked hard to set it up, especially a family business, you're not allowed to steal from it because it harms the other person's living. ect.

    i know that sounds n00bish but my vocabulary isn't working today

    (yes, i did give up halfway through the OP)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambergris View Post
    While many of our "freedoms" have eroded somewhat and continue to do so, thanks to over legislation and special interests, we are still one of the freest nations in the world. That's why we are still a people magnet for many other countries. (still not saying that we're the only country but we do offer many opportunities that many countries cannot)
    Exactly. I mean in comparisson to China the USA IS anarchy. Also, you've got nobody else to answer to. The USA rules the USA. The ****** English rule over Scotland, Wales and part of Ireland. All your govermental desiscions are dependent upon yourselves and you guys alone. Whereas twats in other countries get a say in what our army does among plenty of things which have nought to do with them. You're more free than I.
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    See, this is my problem.
    I love America. But right now, we are heading into a Socialism, and keeping it up, we'll be heading into a Communism, and we, as a nation, are allowing it.

    We elect our representatives to Represent us.
    We do NOT elect them, to change their views on important subjects.
    Look at the Cap and Trade Bill.
    8 Republicans voted for it.
    How sad is that?
    8 Republicans we elected to vote Republican changed their mind, without caring, and are helping to ruin our nation.
    We get taxed.
    And Taxed.
    And taxed.
    And taxed.
    And taxed.
    And taxed.
    And taxed.
    And people think it is going to help.
    People, who VOTED and gave their best interest in someone who thinks it will help!
    Someone, who thinks to spark the economy, gives 250 bucks or whatever to people.
    Well guess where that money went?
    TAXES.
    And how about lowering taxes?
    It isn't like the government doesn't have enough money, they are spending trillions a month for Bailouts, and whatever else they want.
    Oh, but it's helping.
    Debt is great.
    Obama and his House and Senate are ruining our nation, and we are allowing it.
    We are allowing, our free nation, to become ruined.
    Complain as you want, millions of people think they are making it better, and America 'helped' by electing such people.


    By the way, for people who are for that Nation Healthcare or whatever it is called:
    Nothing is free.
    You might think you get free healthcare.
    But that is paid by your government.
    Who is just building up our National Debt.
    Trillions a month.
    With Healthcare, it will go up FASTER.
    So think about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samus-Fan View Post
    See, this is my problem.
    I love America. But right now, we are heading into a Socialism, and keeping it up, we'll be heading into a Communism, and we, as a nation, are allowing it.

    We elect our representatives to Represent us.
    We do NOT elect them, to change their views on important subjects.
    Look at the Cap and Trade Bill.
    8 Republicans voted for it.
    How sad is that?
    8 Republicans we elected to vote Republican changed their mind, without caring, and are helping to ruin our nation.
    We get taxed.
    And Taxed.
    And taxed.
    And taxed.
    And taxed.
    And taxed.
    And taxed.
    And people think it is going to help.
    People, who VOTED and gave their best interest in someone who thinks it will help!
    Someone, who thinks to spark the economy, gives 250 bucks or whatever to people.
    Well guess where that money went?
    TAXES.
    And how about lowering taxes?
    It isn't like the government doesn't have enough money, they are spending trillions a month for Bailouts, and whatever else they want.
    Oh, but it's helping.
    Debt is great.
    Obama and his House and Senate are ruining our nation, and we are allowing it.
    We are allowing, our free nation, to become ruined.
    Complain as you want, millions of people think they are making it better, and America 'helped' by electing such people.


    By the way, for people who are for that Nation Healthcare or whatever it is called:
    Nothing is free.
    You might think you get free healthcare.
    But that is paid by your government.
    Who is just building up our National Debt.
    Trillions a month.
    With Healthcare, it will go up FASTER.
    So think about that.
    I love your words.

    I must agree. We are heading into a horrible place lead by obama.


    Obama approval rating is starting to get near under 50% approved

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    Freedom is just a word politicians threw/through around to get votes.




    No one is free in any country.

    You can either let it happen, ***** and moan, or go out and do something.
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    Cervantes, you are mistaken sir.
    You are not a free country.
    Think about it.

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    My family supports Barack Obama.

    There are a lot of idiots in this world, but politicians and Americans aren't the only ones.

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