Standard rune/masteries?

[CraeSC111]

Eh I usually go for more AP in those games cause none of the armor penetration items seem to be more useful than the extra 2 or 3% increase on kogs w. Plus hid other abilities scale pretty nicely. And I wont have to worry as much about any thornmail which generally counts towards 25% of the damage dealt to me in most games

[Trunks]

lol armor pen is a must, around 20 minutes in it plays a big factor

[CraeSC111]

I'll get armor pen for the pure ad carries but with kog or jax (haven't actually played him since before hextech gunblade was nerfed) I usually try to go for more balance in games with lotsa armor. I actually don't see too many people outside of tanks build armor and kog destroys tanks

[Trunks]

That's weird, A lot of people build armor when I play them. Support and sometimes jungler depending who it is.

[CraeSC111]

With Jax you used to be able to stack hextech gunblades and two shot everyone

[Trunks]

Jax got a huge nerf, he's not that good any more. Hardly Viable

[CraeSC111]

His new Dodge looks nice. I never bothered to play him after hextech gunblade was nerfed cause he didn't seem so OP anymore

[Trunks]

His dmg was nerfed after they changed the gunblade too. He's been nerfed 2 or 3 times. and no the new dodge is a new, isn't as good as the stats dodge.

[CraeSC111]

They nerf jax to hell but we are still waiting on a tryn nerf. Wonder if they will ever rebuff Eve.

[Trunks]

nerf really isn't that good any more, he's only good in 3's. 5's so much cc, he can't do anything. He's really squishy, range tear him apart.

They do need to buff eve and twitch, they're both awful. Shaco is only good because he has better escapes and fears.