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    Default I'm against gay marriages being legalized.

    Ha, I just know this will draw some attention. I purposefully have a provocative title, but read it before you jump to conclusions. I also recommend you start by reading my rules suggestion for this section: (and then debate me)

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    Gay people getting a marriage license is extremely offensive to me. I am also not religious. And I have no problem with their sexual orientation. But I still don't agree with the idea of gay marriage being legalized.

    -First, I dont think churches should have to hold weddings unless they want to. I like when they discriminate because I think it helps people leave the church. (Im not much for organized religion either) This is not really an issue, because they are not being forced to provide these services. One religions views, in a society that claims to uphold the right to individual religious freedom, does not concern the validity of marriage.

    -Second, the goverment recognizes two married people and gives them a legally binding contract saying they are married. Martial status is controlled by the government. Separation of church and state in my mind says the government has no business in matters of religion. So there should be no confusion here, the government has no business telling people how to practice religion, or denying marital status based on a religious majorities perspective.

    So if a church accepts a gay couple and performs a wedding. The state should have no say in weather or not they are allowed a marriage license. That seems to fall under the right of the people to freely practice whatever religious beliefs they so choose.

    The fact that the issue is "should gays be allowed to marry" and not "why does the government get to decide this?" is highly offensive. I'm totally against the idea of getting governmental approval. In fact I am against them being able to grant rights specific to a religious practice that only applies to those they choose.

    The net we have fallen into lies with legal benefits provided by this "married" class. It ranges from tax benefits to the ability to make crucial emergency decisions for your spouse when your significant other cant make them. If affects inheritance, divorce, the whole nine yards. And tradition has gotten in the way of cold hard realization:

    Government control of the definition of marriage is a breach of your ability to practice your beliefs. You can have those rights only so long as you have religious beliefs that are accessible to the majority. We make laws based on majority sure, but should we deny a basic human right based on religious perspectives?

    That sickens me.

    I do not think the government should be in the business of handing out marriage licenses. All of those things that marital status affects can be handled by a declaration of status by a couple to the government, this is not something we should be asking permission for.


    So in closing this argument is actually more about the very idea of what legalizing a type of marriage really stands for. A limitation of your right to beliefs that fall outside of the majority. Yes you should be able to practice one of the most basic human rights regardless of the majorities religious perspective. That's not a valid legal concern. And when I said I found it offensive,it was because the issue was being oversimplified.
    Last edited by BobTD; 01-05-2014 at 07:49 AM.
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