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 Originally Posted by Supermoose
FOR REAL DUDE G3 and G36 Rip it!
I cant wait to get that perk so I can carry a Shotty on meh Back!
The M16 fine- Quit b|tching
I just matters
what perks you put on that mofo.
Get on a map like overgrown or backlot which have open spaces as well as buildings and the combinations owns big time.
Rifle out in open spaces and shotty for roaming the buildings
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Let me rephrase this then. In Team Deathmatch, the M16 is way too powerful. It's almost as powerful as the .50 cal and more powerful than anything else despite the fact that in real life it's less powerful than anything that isn't an SMG. If they had downloadable content and a BB gun that was more powerful than the .50 cal was available, you wouldn't be irritated?
It shouldn't be possible that an M16 with stopping power/deep penetration is more powerful than an M60 with stopping power/deep penetration. The game is rooted in real life so it should be somewhat realistic.
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I think you're placing too much emphasis on the "realism" of one particular weapon. I'm sure there is a lot wrong with every weapon in the game if you want to start talking realistically about the weapons in the game.
It is after all, A GAME.
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 Originally Posted by TeknoVagrant
I think you're placing too much emphasis on the "realism" of one particular weapon. I'm sure there is a lot wrong with every weapon in the game if you want to start talking realistically about the weapons in the game.
It is after all, A GAME.
A game with an overpowered M16. They need to tone it down to the level of the other weapons.
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I think the more realistic alternative is to man up and get used to it.
Judging by the responses in this thread, it isn't the popular opinion that the M16 is overpowered to the point that it needs to be "toned down." So the suggestion in itself is kind of silly.
The hit detection issues on the sniper rifles/ACOG is actually an issue. Whining about how "strong" a weapon is, is well, just whining. It reeks of being a sore loser, it doesn't signify that someone is inherently vested in seeing that each weapon in the game is as close to its real-life counterpart as possible. The mere idea is ridiculous. I'm sure none of the weapons share the same physical qualities within the game that they do in real-life. Not to mention that the characters themselves that are getting shot at having inhuman strength. I can say for certain that a single shot from an M16 would put me on the ground in a ball...assuming it wasn't a well-aimed one that just killed me immediately.
I mean, you're so caught up with one flaw in the game, all the while you're looking over all the other flaws that would essentially be in-line with your logic.
play more Hardcore and you might see this problem less.
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 Originally Posted by TeknoVagrant
I think the more realistic alternative is to man up and get used to it.
Judging by the responses in this thread, it isn't the popular opinion that the M16 is overpowered to the point that it needs to be "toned down." So the suggestion in itself is kind of silly.
The hit detection issues on the sniper rifles/ACOG is actually an issue. Whining about how "strong" a weapon is, is well, just whining. It reeks of being a sore loser, it doesn't signify that someone is inherently vested in seeing that each weapon in the game is as close to its real-life counterpart as possible. The mere idea is ridiculous. I'm sure none of the weapons share the same physical qualities within the game that they do in real-life. Not to mention that the characters themselves that are getting shot at having inhuman strength. I can say for certain that a single shot from an M16 would put me on the ground in a ball...assuming it wasn't a well-aimed one that just killed me immediately.
I mean, you're so caught up with one flaw in the game, all the while you're looking over all the other flaws that would essentially be in-line with your logic.
play more Hardcore and you might see this problem less.
The M16 being overpowered is an issue. It's a game balance issue and complaining about it is perfectly fine. The M16 is good enough in the game that if everyone on one team of average skill used the M16, I'd be willing to bet that they'd win almost every match. That's how good the M16 is in this game. Would you complain if it took 3 bursts from the M16 to kill something?
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So by your logic, the M16 is overpowered.
So they should also do away with all the perks then, right? Since we're so concerned about emulating real-life warfare as much as possible, right?
Do you not see how silly this is? So much of the game is completely unrealistic and you're hammering on one single weapon's "unrealistic" qualities.
Again, play hardcore.
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 Originally Posted by Scott
Get on a map like overgrown or backlot which have open spaces as well as buildings and the combinations owns big time.
Rifle out in open spaces and shotty for roaming the buildings
NOICE NOICE. Yeah dude i've done that a few time. Just drop the pistola for a Shotty. PWNAGE
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 Originally Posted by TeknoVagrant
So by your logic, the M16 is overpowered.
So they should also do away with all the perks then, right? Since we're so concerned about emulating real-life warfare as much as possible, right?
Do you not see how silly this is? So much of the game is completely unrealistic and you're hammering on one single weapon's "unrealistic" qualities.
Again, play hardcore.
Did you ever play PGR2? If so, do you remember how many people were complaining about how good the TVR Speed 12 was in that game? Well, the M16 is COD4's Speed 12. At least in PGR2 you had to go through hell to earn that car. The M16 is leaps and bounds better than any other weapon in the game and it shouldn't be.
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 Originally Posted by Toxic
Let me rephrase this then. In Team Deathmatch, the M16 is way too powerful. It's almost as powerful as the .50 cal and more powerful than anything else despite the fact that in real life it's less powerful than anything that isn't an SMG. If they had downloadable content and a BB gun that was more powerful than the .50 cal was available, you wouldn't be irritated?
It shouldn't be possible that an M16 with stopping power/deep penetration is more powerful than an M60 with stopping power/deep penetration. The game is rooted in real life so it should be somewhat realistic.
The M16 is fine, so are all the other weapons. Take my advice and pay attention to the perks people are using. That's what's giving you the impression that it's overpowered. Learn to adapt on the virtual battlefield and you'll gain the upper hand.
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